Do people prefer a workday or a weekend? 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com>
> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving > piggybank to github (and other awesome things). > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > > > Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github. > > > > Alan. > > > > On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote: > > > > > Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project: > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254 > > > https://github.com/apache/cassandra > > > http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute > > > > > > I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do > > agree > > > that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github? > > > > > > We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the > > date? > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com > > >wrote: > > > > > >> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging > patches > > >> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus > plans > > >> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage > > is > > >> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the > > patch > > >> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after > > only > > >> glancing at the text of the patch. > > >> > > >> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn > patch' > > is > > >> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned > support > > >> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the > > >> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. > Subversion > > is > > >> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, > for > > >> example. > > >> > > >> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches? > > >>> > > >>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list. > > >>> > > >>> Dmitriy > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney > > >>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be > using... > > >>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text > > >>>> patches? > > >>>> > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey > > >>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and > > upload > > >>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'. > > >>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with > > >>>>> svn, > > >>>>> but that is trivial. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" < > > g...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have > > git) > > >>>>> is > > >>>>>> +1 > > >>>>>> but later. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated > > and > > >>>>>> standardized like the one with svn. > > >>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch > > to > > >>>>> svn > > >>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my > > >>>>> humble > > >>>>>> opinion. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> Gianmarco > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we > > >>>>> committed > > >>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a > > >>>>> github > > >>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior > > to > > >>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira > > >>>>>>> integration. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney > > >>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a > > >>>>>>> problem. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. > > >>>>> Works the > > >>>>>>> same. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey > > >>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA > > >>>>> requires > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request > > >>>>> from > > >>>>>>> github > > >>>>>>>>> does not. > > >>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are > > >>>>> experts. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jur...@gmail.com > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit > > >>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>>> switching > > >>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on > > >>>>> github. > > >>>>>>> Maybe > > >>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier > > >>>>> of > > >>>>>>> entry > > >>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for > all. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai > > >>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an > > >>>>> urgent > > >>>>>>> need > > >>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the > process > > >>>>>>> and we > > >>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first > > >>>>> several > > >>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Daniel > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney < > > >>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to > > >>>>> learn > > >>>>>>> one > > >>>>>>>>>>> or > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It > > >>>>> might as > > >>>>>>>>>>> well be > > >>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary > > >>>>> repo > > >>>>>>> using > > >>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer > to > > >>>>> join > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the > apache > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" > > >>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy > > >>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the > work. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney < > > >>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that > > >>>>> uses > > >>>>>>> git? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham > > >>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire > discussion > > >>>>> tree > > >>>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator > > >>>>> projects > > >>>>>>>>>>> were > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. > Looking > > >>>>> for > > >>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates > > >>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary > > >>>>>>>>>>> repository. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has > > >>>>> changed > > >>>>>>>>>>> (or > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't > care > > >>>>>>> which > > >>>>>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>>> use. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you > can > > >>>>>>> apply > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>> do > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first > > >>>>> class > > >>>>>>>>>>> citizen of > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with > > >>>>> pig > > >>>>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>>> just > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about > > >>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>>>> Twitter > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously > > >>>>> on the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. > > >>>>>>> Please > > >>>>>>>>>>> email > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.* > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>> datasyndrome.com > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > >>>> datasyndrome.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > > datasyndrome.com > > > > > > > -- > Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com > datasyndrome.com >
