No, that is not good :( Weekday for the hackathon?
Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: > Russell, you saw that the Cassandra thing still requires people to > upload patches to JIRA? > > D > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible. >> >> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >> >> On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Do people prefer a workday or a weekend? >>> >>> 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving >>>> piggybank to github (and other awesome things). >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github. >>>>> >>>>> Alan. >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254 >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do >>>>> agree >>>>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github? >>>>>> >>>>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the >>>>> date? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging >>>> patches >>>>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus >>>> plans >>>>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage >>>>> is >>>>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the >>>>> patch >>>>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after >>>>> only >>>>>>> glancing at the text of the patch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn >>>> patch' >>>>> is >>>>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned >>>> support >>>>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the >>>>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. >>>> Subversion >>>>> is >>>>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, >>>> for >>>>>>> example. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dmitriy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be >>>> using... >>>>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text >>>>>>>>> patches? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey >>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and >>>>> upload >>>>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'. >>>>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with >>>>>>>>>> svn, >>>>>>>>>> but that is trivial. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" < >>>>> g...@apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have >>>>> git) >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>>>> but later. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn. >>>>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> svn >>>>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my >>>>>>>>>> humble >>>>>>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Gianmarco >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we >>>>>>>>>> committed >>>>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a >>>>>>>>>> github >>>>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira >>>>>>>>>>>> integration. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a >>>>>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. >>>>>>>>>> Works the >>>>>>>>>>>> same. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey >>>>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA >>>>>>>>>> requires >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>> github >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are >>>>>>>>>> experts. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit >>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> switching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on >>>>>>>>>> github. >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> entry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for >>>> all. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai >>>>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an >>>>>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the >>>> process >>>>>>>>>>>> and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first >>>>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney < >>>>>>>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to >>>>>>>>>> learn >>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It >>>>>>>>>> might as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary >>>>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer >>>> to >>>>>>>>>> join >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the >>>> apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" >>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy >>>>>>>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the >>>> work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that >>>>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>>>> git? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham >>>>>>>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire >>>> discussion >>>>>>>>>> tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator >>>>>>>>>> projects >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. >>>> Looking >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates >>>>>>>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has >>>>>>>>>> changed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't >>>> care >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you >>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first >>>>>>>>>> class >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with >>>>>>>>>> pig >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about >>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously >>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. >>>>>>>>>>>> Please >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>
