I prefer weekdays, but I'm flexible. Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com
On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:11 PM, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com> wrote: > Do people prefer a workday or a weekend? > > 2012/4/3 Russell Jurney <russell.jur...@gmail.com> > >> Ok, so we just need a date. Twitter on April <blank> we will be moving >> piggybank to github (and other awesome things). >> >> On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@hortonworks.com> wrote: >> >>> Major +1 for moving Piggybank to github. >>> >>> Alan. >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Russell Jurney wrote: >>> >>>> Some more info is available here, for the Cassandra project: >>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4254 >>>> https://github.com/apache/cassandra >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/HowToContribute >>>> >>>> I have a proposal to make... since we're not yet up for this, but do >>> agree >>>> that it is the future: what if we move Piggybank to github? >>>> >>>> We can do this at the hackathon we're having at Twitter - I forgot the >>> date? >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Git was built with use case #1 being Linux developers exchanging >> patches >>>>> as text via e-mail. I am not sure what binary patch support Linus >> plans >>>>> or what it would help other than being more compact. One disadvantage >>> is >>>>> that it is then hard to review simple changes by simply reading the >>> patch >>>>> itself in a text editor. I have +1'd many near-trivial changes after >>> only >>>>> glancing at the text of the patch. >>>>> >>>>> SVN is (slowly) catching up to have better patch features. 'svn >> patch' >>> is >>>>> now in 1.7, 1.8 will enhance it, and eventually there is planned >> support >>>>> for git patch extensions. In the long run the differences between the >>>>> tools for day-to-day work will shrink from where it is now. >> Subversion >>> is >>>>> planning 'svn shelve' to make it more git-like when working locally, >> for >>>>> example. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/27/12 10:43 PM, "Dmitriy Ryaboy" <dvrya...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Could you enumerate the problems you have with text patches? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can think of 1, but would like to hear your list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dmitriy >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Using text patches is the problem as I see it. We should be >> using... >>>>>>> something else. Doesn't git's functionality enable phasing out text >>>>>>> patches? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Scott Carey >>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the Avro project, several folk generate a patch using git and >>> upload >>>>>>>> that to the JIRA, it patches fine using unix 'patch'. >>>>>>>> Why do you need to switch to svn to generate the patch? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A committer needs to apply the patch to a location checked out with >>>>>>>> svn, >>>>>>>> but that is trivial. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/27/12 2:26 AM, "Gianmarco De Francisci Morales" < >>> g...@apache.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My 2 cents, based on the S4 project experience so far (they have >>> git) >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>> but later. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The process with git is still a bit fuzzy and not fully integrated >>> and >>>>>>>>> standardized like the one with svn. >>>>>>>>> I personally use git for all my dev work with Pig, but then switch >>> to >>>>>>>> svn >>>>>>>>> to generate the final patch. A bit cumbersome but not so bad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Switching now will generate confusion and is not that urgent in my >>>>>>>> humble >>>>>>>>> opinion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Gianmarco >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 01:27, Dmitriy Ryaboy <dvrya...@gmail.com >>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is a check box you check when you upload a patch. If we >>>>>>>> committed >>>>>>>>>> without verifying you checked it, thats an unfortunate oversight. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, you cant send a pull request via github to apache. That's a >>>>>>>> github >>>>>>>>>> (commercial entity) feature, not a git (open source vcs) feature. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes you can post a link on a Jira and ask people for review prior >>> to >>>>>>>>>> submitting a formal patch. No that's not review board or Jira >>>>>>>>>> integration. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:59 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is fine. Only committers can merge pull requests. Not a >>>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I've never signed anything, and committers take my patches. >>>>>>>> Works the >>>>>>>>>> same. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Scott Carey >>>>>>>> <sc...@richrelevance.com >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a legal issue as well. Uploading a patch to JIRA >>>>>>>> requires >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> user to grant apache license to use the code. A pull request >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> github >>>>>>>>>>>> does not. >>>>>>>>>>>> This is all being hashed out elsewhere, none of us here are >>>>>>>> experts. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/22/12 2:08 PM, "Russell Jurney" <russell.jur...@gmail.com >>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is already a trial going, the project would benefit >>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>> switching >>>>>>>>>>>>> to git, as we could then (I think?) accept pull requests on >>>>>>>> github. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>> not, I'm not familiar with integrating multiple gits. Barrier >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> entry >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> contributing would then drop dramatically, making happy for >> all. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Daniel Dai >>>>>>>> <da...@hortonworks.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This can be done in the future but I don't see there is an >>>>>>>> urgent >>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for that. I'd rather wait for Apache to standardize the >> process >>>>>>>>>> and we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can easily follow and switch, rather than become the first >>>>>>>> several >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> try and solve the infrastructure problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Coveney < >>>>>>>>>> jcove...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If people don't know git or svn, they are going to have to >>>>>>>> learn >>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other if they want to work with open source projects. It >>>>>>>> might as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> well be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git, since that's where things are going. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/3/22 Scott Carey <sc...@richrelevance.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache is currently doing a trial with git as the primary >>>>>>>> repo >>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CouchDB project. Other projects may be able to volunteer >> to >>>>>>>> join >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trial, I'm not sure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see http://git-wip-us.apache.org/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest that if you are interested in this join the >> apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure-dev list. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/12 9:57 PM, "Russell Jurney" >>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's the work? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:39 PM, Dmitriy Ryaboy >>>>>>>> <dvrya...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that's left is for someone to volunteer to do the >> work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Russell Jurney < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do we have to do to be the first real project that >>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>>>> git? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's do that. Or, let's just sink svn to github. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It will propel the project forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/rjurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:04 PM, Bill Graham >>>>>>>>>> <billgra...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is the tweet (lacking the entire >> discussion >>>>>>>> tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> re git) where I was pointing out that some incubator >>>>>>>> projects >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/#!/billgraham/status/174744199407738880 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Russell Jurney >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <russell.jur...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this changed, and you are now allowed. >> Looking >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweets. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney http://datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Alan Gates >>>>>>>>>> <ga...@hortonworks.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AFAIK Apache still does not support git as a primary >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can use the git mirror, which Pig does. If this has >>>>>>>> changed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does), I'm +0 on changing, by which I mean I don't >> care >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Jonathan Coveney wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would anyone be opposed to doing this? I think you >> can >>>>>>>>>> apply >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache, no? It would be nice to make git the first >>>>>>>> class >>>>>>>>>>>>>> citizen of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> choice... forcing developers to use svn to work with >>>>>>>> pig >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> barrier, imho. I thought this had been bandied about >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like, but not sure if it's been discussed seriously >>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listserv. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love y'all's opinions on the matter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Note that I'm no longer using my Yahoo! email address. >>>>>>>>>> Please >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> billgra...@gmail.com going forward.* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>>>>>> datasyndrome.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >>> datasyndrome.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com >> datasyndrome.com >>