The simple answer is to use the Apache Software Foundation's workspace (the-asf.slack.com) for Apache Pinot. Let StarTree expand *their* workspace as they see fit, and the Apache Pinot community can join the 400 other public channels over at the-asf.slack.com. Have somebody create #pinot, and adjust the website/docco to point there.
Cheers, -g On 2022/05/25 20:59:11 siddharth teotia wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Thank you for sharing this. > > > StarTree is committed to making Pinot famous—that’s my actual job, in > fact—and to helping users of the open-source project be successful with it, > but we need to keep the boundaries between the ASF and StarTree clearly > defined. Renaming this Slack is an important part of that distinction > > I understand where you are coming from and why you may want to keep > distinction between ASF Pinot and Startree. However, I am not quite sure > how renaming this is going to help with distinction because then all the > ASF Pinot related conversations (between contributors / committers / PMCs > for release, PR, issue etc discussion) will have to go through Startree > workspace which may not be the correct place to do so because these > discussions are orthogonal to Startree or any company using / contributing > to ASF Pinot. > > This workspace was initially created to help grow the ASF Pinot community > and have the related discussions there. I completely agree that Startree > has done a great job in bringing more folks to the workspace, helping them > on a day to day basis etc. However, renaming will actually blur the > distinction to be honest. > > Shall we discuss this to see if there is any alternative to achieve this > distinction ? > > Thanks > Sidd > > > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:56 AM Tim Berglund <tlbergl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Pinot Dev, > > > > I’m Tim Berglund. The barest intro of me: I run Developer Relations at > > StarTree. I wanted to go over a change I’m making to our Slack workspace so > > it is not a surprise to you and we have a chance to talk through any > > questions. > > > > On June 1, 2022, we will rename the Apache Pinot™ Slack Workspace to the > > StarTree Community Slack Workspace. Let me explain my thinking here. > > > > First, of the top ten lifetime contributors in this Slack, six are > > StarTree employees, accounting for about 80% of messages. I’m concerned by > > the StarTree-heavy presence in a workspace that borrows the Apache > > branding. It made sense to name the workspace “Apache Pinot” when Kishore > > first made it, but as its usage has evolved and will continue to evolve, > > keeping the Apache name is not appropriate. StarTree is committed to making > > Pinot famous—that’s my actual job, in fact—and to helping users of the > > open-source project be successful with it, but we need to keep the > > boundaries between the ASF and StarTree clearly defined. Renaming this > > Slack is an important part of that distinction, and something I’d rather do > > sooner than later. > > > > Second, the continued evolution of the workspace is sure to include > > channels to support StarTree’s cloud service and other community-licensed > > products we might release in the future. Our broad commitment to and > > investment in the support and advocacy for Apache Pinot will remain. > > Renaming of the Slack will not cause it to become a place for vendor sales > > pitches. (Indeed, those are forbidden, and sales people who come into Slack > > to sell will answer to me.) > > > > The Slack is home to many other community members who have no association > > with the ASF at all, and of course will continue to be an inclusive space > > open to anyone who wants to talk about Pinot. It’s our goal for it to > > continue to grow and thrive, and for StarTree to continue to invest heavily > > in it as a helpful and welcoming place. > > > > Warmly, > > > > Tim Berglund > > > > VP Developer Relations > > StarTree > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@pinot.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@pinot.apache.org