Jack,

Actually my comments were in no way an answer to his proposal. I believe
that under the rules of Apache we have already gotten our answer to
whether it will be included as a subproject of struts. To be included
there must be no vetoing vote by a member of the PMC. (pardon me Martin
if I misquote you or I misinterpreted your intent) Martin Cooper is a
member of the PMC and basically gave a -1 vote on including it as a
subproject. 

I do believe there may be value in an ajax struts integration, and the
path to that integration is via either the struts.sf.net project or
creating another project on SF.net or java.dev.net or something similar.
I also concur that there are several technologies available and perhaps
a look at creating a more generalized integration should be looked at. 

I also agree with (I believe it was) Ted, that this is really not a part
of struts, but is at most a subproject. Something like Shale. Its just
my opinion but struts is not about the view, and this is really view
technology we are talking about here. Although it is pretty cool stuff,
it just seems to not be aimed at what struts core is really about which
is the controller aspects of MVC. 

Al


-----Original Message-----
From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:36 AM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: Re: RFC: Struts HTML Ajax-Aware Tags

<SNIP>
On Apr 7, 2005 9:17 AM, Fogleson, Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hmm,
> 
> I don't know. I checked out the struts 1.3 trunk (including apps,
> taglibs, etc) and haven't had much of a problem with being stepped on.
I
> even submitted a couple patches against the 1.3 dev trunk.
> 
> I will agree that the 1.3 is vastly in flux, but that is likely
because
> it is undergoing a massive development effort right now.
> 
> I know you are more of a fan of the 1.2 branches but I'm very much
> looking forward to 1.3 with commons chain. :)
> 
> Al
</SNIP>

Answer 7 = "Hmm" or "I just saved $30.00 on Geiko" or "I don't know
what your problem is because I am doing something entirely different
and don't see why I should care about what you are talking about"
Answer 8 = "You are stuck in the past and I am up to date"

Frank really is talking about something real here, if anyone wants to
see what it is that he is talking about.

-- 
"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its
back."
~Dakota Jack~

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