First of all, nice work :-) 2011/11/27 Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>: >> I'd say the missing h2, h3, et al, is a showstopper. > > OK, then we can't use fluido now, except we add anything in sequence > (like it is today). This is terrible to read imho and so the question > is if we need to wait for a new doxia release then.
Sorry, but I really don't get it, where is the problem ? The page looks awesome and I don't see any problems with missing h2, h3, etc. > I didn't mean smaller in terms of font size, sorry for being unclear. > > Actually the "news" section is on top right and very prominent to me. > Struts has an "Announcements" page were everything is detail. This > page is pretty useless if we write nearly everything on the frontpage. > In addtion there are release notes. There are 3 different pages > containing similar information. I don't think this is good and should > be streamlined. > > In addition, the current "news" on the front page are from 2008 two > times and one from 2011. So... the 2008 news are not really helpful to > anybody. I would remove them or keep them on the annoucments page if > necessary. The "news" section is ok, the only problem I see is that the main section is fixed sized and doesn't look good on a huge screen (24" compared to 15"). Is it possible to change that ? >> * There's a huge waste of space with just "Apache Struts" in a big >> font, one sentence, and two buttons. Given that this is right below >> both the ASF logo, at top left, and the Struts logo, at top right, >> this serves no function and just takes up space - and prime real >> estate, at that - and forces everyone to scroll to get to anything >> useful. > > This is the "hero unit". > > Actually I disagree. It gives you the chance to see at one glance what > it is about and leads you to the most important links: technic primer > and downloads. > I don't know what your monitor size is, but I don't have to scroll. > > Anyway this is a matter of taste, if others don't like it, I can > remove it of course. I'll say just to mix the both version, v1 with v2, like below Apache Struts The latest production release of Struts 2 is Struts 2.2.3.1 [_point to release notes_], which was promoted to "General Availability" (or "Ready for Primetime") on 7 September 2011. Struts 2.2.3.1 includes important security fixes. All developers are strongly encouraged to update existing Struts 2 applications to Struts 2.2.3.1. | Download | | Read more | > >> * We need proper headings (as mentioned above) rather than the random >> first words in a section in a big bold font. Section titles are chosen >> for meaning. > > As there is nobody parsing this site I wonder why this is so important > for the moment when it looks the same. > Of course I would like to have proper h2 etc too, but then fluido is > not possible as explained above (or we use sequential paragraphs) I'd say, v1 looks better for me, in two cases the heading is the same as beginning of the sentence. If we don't have a good heading, v1 approach is better. >> * Visited links are not coloured differently from unvisited ones. > > Thats a feature of bootstrap. I have already had this discussion on > the incubator ml. I don't like have the colors changed. But others > seem to like it. If you would like that, please name me a color which > you would like to see for visited links and I will use it. The same here, I really prefer sites without colour changes for the visited pages. I open the same pages many times and after some time they look the same - all the links are visited now ;) And we don't change the content that often to have visited links so important. >> Overall, it looks pretty and trendy, but actual usability has gone >> down the tubes and is pretty awful. I'd personally prefer to see us >> stick with what we have unless the usability can be brought back to at >> least what we have now. Usability is far more important than pretty or >> trendy. > > OK.... actually the current page is not very usable for me because: > > - way to much text on it > - search is somewhere hidden on the bottom > - no easy way to get to the downloads > - outdated news > - news do not differ in design from other text > - everything to "plain" for my eyes > - Announcments page does contain less information the "recent > releases" box on frontpage > - "Release notes" are not found easily (actually I am still searching > while typing) > - the "page flow" with the next links somewhere on the bottom is > broken when you reach the Kickstart FAQ. Or is this intended? Usability is important, but changing the layout is far more important to show that the project is still alive. Redeploying a new version doesn't change much, just some numbers and dates. Changing layout says “We will always be there for you” ;-) And usability can be improved over time. I would say, do for it, redeploying a new site is 10000 simpler than releasing a new version of Struts 2 ;-) Kind regards -- Łukasz + 48 606 323 122 http://www.lenart.org.pl/ Warszawa JUG conference - Confitura http://confitura.pl/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@struts.apache.org
