Ok, let's be concrete, who will implement the specs on tomee 7 and under
which deadline? I think it is the main point to recenter on tomee 8 where
all the work is already done and investment is very low.

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Le jeu. 9 août 2018 à 08:49, Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonte...@tomitribe.com>
a écrit :

> I also don't get why there is resistance to backport if we can and if a
> contriibutor/committer is wiling to.
> We have most of our users not using TomEE because it's not finished or
> certified.
>
> They would certainely be happy to being able to use MP on a stable TomEE
> version.
>
> --
> Jean-Louis Monteiro
> http://twitter.com/jlouismonteiro
> http://www.tomitribe.com
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 8:33 AM, David Blevins <david.blev...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Good morning :)
> >
> > > On Aug 8, 2018, at 10:53 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu <cgerdo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> We can definitely vote, but would be great if we can way a day or two
> to
> > >> discuss what we'd be voting and what our status is and how to best
> > address
> > >> our concerns.
> > >>
> > > +1
> >
> > I maybe jumped the gun.  I'm happy to trash the vote I put up if we feel
> > that's best.  Or we let it continue and consider it informational and
> > non-binding.
> >
> > >> We all universally agree we want MP in TomEE 8 and are actively
> working
> > on
> > >> it
> > >>
> > > I am not sure there is an active MP work in TomEE
> >
> > It's not roaring active, but config and jwt are there and passing in
> TomEE
> > 8 and 7.1. Roberto has done a good chunk of that integration work,
> > obviously Jean-Louis a large part of the JWT support, Jon has indicated
> in
> > the past a willingness to spin the release.
> >
> > > My understanding of the concern is that we end up ignoring TomEE 8,
> which
> > >> is a concern I would share.
> > >>
> > > I did not understand what you mean by ignoring TomEE 8 .Can you please
> a
> > > bit elaborate? Who ignore?
> >
> > This is me attempting to understand the objection to a TomEE 7.1 and
> > apparently doing a bad job of it :)
> >
> > I got the impression the concern was that energy would be shifted away
> > from TomEE 8 to a TomEE 7.1, i.e. TomEE 8 would suffer and be ignored as
> a
> > result.  If that's not the case, I suspect I need someone who is
> concerned
> > about a 7.1 to say more specifically the concern is.
> >
> > > Perhaps the most effective vote would be to vote to require those who
> do
> > >> work on a TomEE 7.1 to also submit the same PR to TomEE 8. If a PR
> comes
> > >> into TomEE 7.1 only and that work is needed in TomEE 8, but there
> isn't
> > a
> > >> PR, we reject it.
> > >>
> > > -1. Different people can work on TomEE 7.1 and TomEE 8. We need to
> > > differentiate TomEE 7.1 from TomEE 8. TomEE 7.1 is just in there to
> only
> > > include MP1. We don't want to wait TomEE 7.1 for TomEE 8.
> >
> > I'm ok with us not being that strict.  I only proposed it as a compromise
> > to address concerns.  I have a growing awareness I haven't clearly
> > understood the concern well enough to address it.
> >
> > I'll shut my mouth for a bit and re-open my ears, hopefully something
> good
> > will jump in. :)
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
> >
>

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