Thanks for your kind feedback.

@Richard, I'll gladly change Tomee Plume pom to include BatchEE, PR : in
progress with a blocker i can also resolve.

@David, about the flavors page, i think your suggestions are simpler and
better, applied them on names consistency and added a table of
implementations.

what need for this list of implementations ?
* For my students => My usual scenario is that i need to remind them of
what is provided by Tomee vs other servers. "they dont need HK2 nor Jersey
if they have the Plus flavor."
* For the general web site visitors => I wonder if people would prefer perf
metrics and tck results, rather than comparing what is provided by Tomee vs
others. provided a web capture just for fun :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13041580/image-2022-03-25-11-18-14-708.png

i still believe the list of implementations is needed to know what Tomee
provides, but David's suggestion is clearer.
here is the current version of the web page in the PR :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13041581/image-2022-03-25-11-19-03-406.png

On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 06:18, Zowalla, Richard <
richard.zowa...@hs-heilbronn.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for your mail and your work in making the page more clear,
> Swell! Your work is very much appreciated.
>
>
> > Total side note to the wider dev list, we really need to get JBatch
> > into Plume!  Those distributions are supposed to be the same minus
> > the JPA and JSF providers.
>
> I created TOMEE-3871 [1] for this one.
>
> @Swell Let me know, if you like to provide a PR for master / tomee-8.x
> branch to fix it. We can then assign you the Jira :)
>
> It basically boils down to adding "batchee-jbatch" (runtime) to the
> "tomee-plume-webapp". The references in the "boms" are then
> automatically re-generated, if you conduct a quick build:
>
> mvn -U -Pquick -DskipTests -Dsurefire.useFile=false
> -DdisableXmlReport=true -DuniqueVersion=false -ff -Dassemble
> -DfailIfNoTests=false clean install
>
> If you are unsure how to proceed with it, feel free to ask. We are
> happy to help.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMEE-3871
>
> Am Donnerstag, dem 24.03.2022 um 11:48 -0700 schrieb David Blevins:
> > > On Mar 19, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Swell <souheil.sul...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Regarding Tomee website : one web page mislead me to believe that
> > > Tomee Plus
> > > includes Tomee Plume, and it made it hard for me to understand why
> > > my
> > > webapp was not loading.
> > >
> > > I believe it could mislead others and its why I wanted to suggest
> > > some
> > > changes on its content to better show the delta between flavors.
> > >
> > > Currently the flavors page does not differentiate between Micro and
> > > Web
> > > profiles, nor does it tell Plume includes EclipseLink when Plus
> > > does not.
> > >
> > > I took time to write a page I believe could be usefull to Tomee
> > > users, a
> > > screenshot is linked below, the visitors could benefit from my
> > > additional
> > > table for synthesis of deltas.
> > >
> > >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13041318/image-2022-03-18-20-36-25-938.png
> >
> > Hi Swell,
> >
> > Thank you so much for taking the time to put so much thought into
> > this work.  We are truly lucky :)
> >
> > I love that you included the MicroProfile detail, that was definitely
> > missing and badly needed.  As the table is quite large already, that
> > terse summary at the top is a very nice improvement and likely to
> > help people see the big picture significantly faster.
> >
> > In the first table, I like the way you used "Jakarta JSF
> > Implementation" and list the implementations by name.  For
> > consistency, can we use that same approach for the line
> > above?  Instead of it saying "EclipseLink" and having a checkmark,
> > could we also have it say "Jakarta Persistence (JPA) Implementation"
> > and then put "OpenJPA, OpenJPA, EcliseLink, OpenJPA" in there?  We
> > can do that in both the top and bottom tables.
> >
> > On listing OpenEJB in the bottom table.  I think it's fine  I'm not
> > the best judge of what people think is useful information as I've
> > been working on the project too long and everything is "obvious."  Do
> > you find it helpful to see OpenEJB listed even though it's the same
> > for all distributions.  Do you think we possibly need a table
> > entirely dedicated to implementations? (OpenWebBeans, Geronimo
> > Transaction Manager, BVal, etc)
> >
> > Some minor trademark corrections:
> >
> >  - "GlassFish Mojarra" is "Eclipse Mojarra"
> >  - "Jakarta JSF" is "Jakarta Faces", but "Jakarta Faces (JSF)" is
> > completely fine and encouraged so people are aware of its new and
> > former name.
> >  - "Jakarta EJB" is "Jakarta Enterprise Beans", but "Jakarta
> > Enterprise Beans (EJB)" is completely fine and encouraged so people
> > are aware of its new and former name.
> >  - "Jakarta JPA" is "Jakarta Persistence", but "Jakarta Persistence
> > (JPA)" is completely fine and encouraged so people are aware of its
> > new and former name.
> >  - OpenJPA, OpenEJB and MyFaces are all Apache trademarks, so if
> > we're going to say "Apache MyFaces" on the page, we need to also use
> > "Apache OpenJPA" and "Apache OpenEJB"
> >
> >
> > Total side note to the wider dev list, we really need to get JBatch
> > into Plume!  Those distributions are supposed to be the same minus
> > the JPA and JSF providers.
> >
> >
> > Thank you so much, again, for all work on this and being patient
> > getting bounced around between different repos and ultimately onto
> > the list.  We'd be happy to see you post as often as you like :)
> >
> >
> > -David
> >
>

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