Usually: going to the board should be a measure of last resort. And the board usually respects the judgements of trademarks. So I wouldn't expect that to help.
The main difference is probably, that there isn't a well established software vendor called jackdaw. After all, It's not about translations, it's about trademarks. Let's not escalate this too soon. Chris Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: Alexander Alten <a...@databloom.ai> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:53:42 AM To: dev@wayang.apache.org <dev@wayang.apache.org> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Wayang Name My point stays the same: Wayang is a Indonesian proper name, which never should be translated To say that the world speaks English is a bold statement, at least not in Indonesia ;) I contacted Abby Kearns, CTO of Puppet, Inc - but no response so far As example: Kafka translated into English means Jackdaw, but Kafka is also a well known Bohemian Novellist. Now Kafka is named after the Author, which is a intellectual property in Germany (Urheberrechtsgesetz). Therefore I vote to discuss this matter with the presidents office of the Apache Software Foundation and come to a conclusion, whatever the outcome is. Cheers, —Alex > On 24. Jan 2022, at 21:34, Bertty Contreras <ber...@databloom.ai> wrote: > > Hello Folks, > > In the case of this vote we will then discuss over the same thread, because > it has several options and it is not just +1 or -1. > > Best regards, > Bertty > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:33 PM Bertty Contreras <ber...@databloom.ai> > wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> Maybe several of you already know that we are finalizing the setup for the >> name of puddling, and we have one complaint from a reviewing member where >> he said that "wayang" could be associated with 'puppet'. >> >> We try to show him that "wayang" is a concept, but it is not enough >> because it has a relation with 'puppet'. If we want to conserve the name, >> we have the following options: >> >> a) the podling chooses a new name >> b) the podling provide enough argument for "Wayang" does not conflict with >> "Puppet" >> c) the podling obtains agreement from Puppet Inc that Puppet Inc has no >> objection to the ASF's use of the "Wayang" name >> d) the podling appeals to the ASF president to overrule the current >> decision >> >> In the case of option "B", a group of the community members try to >> formulate arguments about that wayang is the concept behind the ancestral >> theater of java island. However, it was not enough. If you have a legal >> base, it could be an excellent option to add to the justifications. >> >> In the case of option "C", Alex is trying to contact a friend that works >> in Puppet Inc. Nevertheless, if one of you has contact with someone in >> Puppet Inc, it could help us speed up the process. >> >> Regarding option "D", if we want to follow this option, we need to prepare >> a good argument with legal fundamentals and focus on the concept of wayang. >> >> Finally, the option "A" throws away all the work around the name of Apache >> Wayang to make it popular, and we start from scratch the process again but >> with a new name. >> >> Now the vote is, which path do we want to follow concerning our options? >> >> Best regards, >> Bertty >>
