The Trademark team, since they are the line of defense. And btw, I fully understand the argument from the ™ team. But I also see from my experience no real issue - but I’m firm in the EU trademark world, not the US one.
Cheers, —Alex > On 25. Jan 2022, at 11:46, Zoi Kaoudi <zkao...@yahoo.gr.INVALID> wrote: > > So I have a question regarding B: > > Who decides whether the evidence is enough or not? > Best > -- > Zoi > Στις Τρίτη, 25 Ιανουαρίου 2022, 11:25:36 π.μ. CET, ο χρήστης Alexander > Alten-Lorenz <a...@databloom.ai> έγραψε: > > Of course, B and C first. But we need to come to an conclusion, at the end. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 25. Jan 2022, at 09:30, Zoi Kaoudi <zkao...@yahoo.gr.invalid> wrote: >> >> I would really go for B and C, then D and A the last option. Changing the >> name now would only hurt imo.. >> Best >> -- >> Zoi >> >> >> Στις Τρίτη, 25 Ιανουαρίου 2022, 09:11:17 π.μ. CET, ο χρήστης Christofer >> Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> έγραψε: >> >> Usually: going to the board should be a measure of last resort. And the >> board usually respects the judgements of trademarks. So I wouldn't expect >> that to help. >> >> The main difference is probably, that there isn't a well established >> software vendor called jackdaw. >> >> After all, It's not about translations, it's about trademarks. >> >> Let's not escalate this too soon. >> >> Chris >> >> Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> >> ________________________________ >> From: Alexander Alten <a...@databloom.ai> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:53:42 AM >> To: dev@wayang.apache.org <dev@wayang.apache.org> >> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Wayang Name >> >> My point stays the same: >> >> Wayang is a Indonesian proper name, which never should be translated >> To say that the world speaks English is a bold statement, at least not in >> Indonesia ;) >> I contacted Abby Kearns, CTO of Puppet, Inc - but no response so far >> >> As example: >> Kafka translated into English means Jackdaw, but Kafka is also a well known >> Bohemian Novellist. Now Kafka is named after the Author, which is a >> intellectual property in Germany (Urheberrechtsgesetz). >> >> Therefore I vote to discuss this matter with the presidents office of the >> Apache Software Foundation and come to a conclusion, whatever the outcome is. >> >> Cheers, >> —Alex >> >> >>> On 24. Jan 2022, at 21:34, Bertty Contreras <ber...@databloom.ai> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Folks, >>> >>> In the case of this vote we will then discuss over the same thread, because >>> it has several options and it is not just +1 or -1. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Bertty >>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:33 PM Bertty Contreras <ber...@databloom.ai> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> Maybe several of you already know that we are finalizing the setup for the >>>> name of puddling, and we have one complaint from a reviewing member where >>>> he said that "wayang" could be associated with 'puppet'. >>>> >>>> We try to show him that "wayang" is a concept, but it is not enough >>>> because it has a relation with 'puppet'. If we want to conserve the name, >>>> we have the following options: >>>> >>>> a) the podling chooses a new name >>>> b) the podling provide enough argument for "Wayang" does not conflict with >>>> "Puppet" >>>> c) the podling obtains agreement from Puppet Inc that Puppet Inc has no >>>> objection to the ASF's use of the "Wayang" name >>>> d) the podling appeals to the ASF president to overrule the current >>>> decision >>>> >>>> In the case of option "B", a group of the community members try to >>>> formulate arguments about that wayang is the concept behind the ancestral >>>> theater of java island. However, it was not enough. If you have a legal >>>> base, it could be an excellent option to add to the justifications. >>>> >>>> In the case of option "C", Alex is trying to contact a friend that works >>>> in Puppet Inc. Nevertheless, if one of you has contact with someone in >>>> Puppet Inc, it could help us speed up the process. >>>> >>>> Regarding option "D", if we want to follow this option, we need to prepare >>>> a good argument with legal fundamentals and focus on the concept of wayang. >>>> >>>> Finally, the option "A" throws away all the work around the name of Apache >>>> Wayang to make it popular, and we start from scratch the process again but >>>> with a new name. >>>> >>>> Now the vote is, which path do we want to follow concerning our options? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Bertty >>>> >>
