Hi Kay, Mathias,
>> - OTOH there are concerns that the majority of people interested in OOo
>> are "pure" users and will stay so and they might get bored by content
>> more centred on contributors.
> As mentioned elsewhere, the OOo portal is _not_ only for end-users
> (which we may better call consumers), but has to reflect the interests
> of _all_ stakeholders, including the native lang. and accepted projects.
I think nobody really questions this, the disagreement is only in the
extent to which (and how) other stakeholders should be addressed on the
main page.
One could argue that even today's top menu bar is addressing the
non-user stakeholders, but that's too non-obvious for my taste.
>>- We should point to URE and SDK also. My comment: have a look at the
>>Mozilla page ("Other Mozilla Software"). Of course we need new pages for
>>both products then.
>
> The problem with Mozilla is, that it has too many home pages, at least
> www.mozilla.org
> www.mozilla.com
>
> and may be
> www.mozillazine.org
> wiki.mozilla.org
Not completely true, the main page for Mozilla is www.mozilla.org, none
of the others. Visit the others and simply look at the site titles in
your browser ...
So yes, I think we could use mozilla.com for inspirations ...
>>My personal summary of this would be:
>> - Let's agree that we add a Chart link to the home page like the one to
>> Math as soon as the new chart is integrated into OOo. Of course we
>> already have a Chart module but I doubt that Ingrid will want to
>> document this one so IMHO it makes sense to wait a bit.
IMO we can do this before it's integrated, but in this case we should
_clearly_ indicate on either the linked or the linking page that the new
chart does not have the same level as the other applications.
>>- Let's agree to have links to the "other products" URE and SDK
>>somewhere on the home page. New pages have to be created before.
>
> Agreed.
+1
>>- Let's add a link from the marketing pages of the applications to the
>>project pages as soon as they are redesigned to address not only developers.
We should make those more obvious than the one which already exists:
Base's marketing page has this link, but far too less prominent, IMO.
(
side note: Who do I have to approach to remove the XML-nonsense from the
sentence "BASE includes a full version of the HSQL database engine,
storing data in XML files"?
)
>>Besides that I think we should also talk about the "Projects" link in
>>the navigation bar. IMHO the "categories" page is one step too much and
>>we should start with the "Accepted projects" page immediately - it also
>>has links to the other categories and the NL projects are linked
>>directly from the home page anyway.
Projects, IMO, should have a (manually created) list of all accepted,
non-artificial (e.g.: no utilities) projects, similar to
http://projects.openoffice.org/accepted.html, but more appealing (some
nice colored icons :), and less burdened (for example, the project leads
might not really be of interest here, they belong to the amazing
mind-blowing yet-to-be-created new project pages, I'd say).
>>Another point I would like to rise: could we have a more prominent link
>>to the "contribute" page, perhaps equally in visibility and size to the
>>"get OOo" or the "Native Language" button?
Would it make sense to call this "Participate" instead of "Contribute"?
To me, this sounds somehow better, since participation seems to cover a
wider variety than contribution ....
> Actually I do not know why people are so picky regarding the requested
> changes. Even if the project pages are not too pretty, neither are the
> marketing etc. pages, and basically there is no risk to experiment a
> little.
I don't think anybody is picky here, instead all I read so far was to
get a common understanding, and to find some agreement. Which is much
better, IMO, than just experimenting on the living object. (You also
wouldn't want me to _experiment_ with the UDK, by trying if there are
really some complaints if I change the OUString incompatibly, would you?)
Ciao
Frank
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