On 2009/05/11 3:44 PM Kay Schenk wrote:
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2009/05/11 2:01 PM Kay Schenk wrote:
Larry Gusaas wrote:
On 2009/05/11 12:33 PM Kay Schenk wrote:
Hello, all...
I made a very quick modification at :
http://website.openoffice.org/tryouts/Kay/kayindex.html
that might help with this.
Yes, it kind of messes up our lovely design, but perhaps it will
stem some of the irritation I and others have been experiencing.
Just click in the green downarrow download area, and hopefully the
new message will show up.
When I click it I see:
Download now!
Start downloading OpenOffice.org 3.1.0 for Mac OSX Intel in US English
(Java runtime, JRE, normally included)
This is wrong. Java is never included in the Mac version.
OK, well this is why I used "normally"...maybe I'll change this to
"typically". Really, there is no ONE solution for all versions. This
is part of the problem I think.
This is the verbiage on the main DL page
"Include the Java JRE with this download (This option is not
available for Linux DEB and Mac OSX)"
Right now, when I change my agent to use Mac OSX I don't get any
additional information indicating I SHOULD have a jre to use OOo.
So...how do Mac folks cope with this or...is the assumption that
they have it? I'm sorry if all this sounds dumb but I really don't
know anything about Mac configurations.
Macs automatically come with Java installed. Updates come from Apple,
since they build there own versions of Java.
Having that indicator (Java runtime, JRE, normally included) will
only confuse people new to Macs and/or OO.o
OK, well do you have an alternative suggestion?
Maybe
"JRE included for all OS versions except Linux DEB and Mac"
That would work if you have to have the same message for all systems. Is
it possible for a different message depending on the operating system
detected?
What we're trying to accomplish is to give folks who DON'T want the
standard DL that includes the JRE -- and this is all Windows and Linux
versions except Linux Deb and Mac-- an indicator as to how they might
do this.
A few months ago, I tried with some amount of success, and some not,
to deal with automatically detecting java a different series of
problems -- variants of Java that couldn't be detected, some language
implemetations only packaged WITH the JRE, etc. -- so I abandoned this.
But, I would really really like to see the site put something out
there so folks wouldn't end up with yet another JRE to deal with.
And that is very important. I remember well ending up with multiple versions when I used to use windows.
--
Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." -
Edgard Varese
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