hello again TJ and Raphael...

Please note that the link I added only gets the user to the QA page
which they could find on their own supposedly. I think most users would
find value in the issue search box...really probably mostly what they
would want. I did just a search on "java" and some useful stuff came up.

The user *still needs to register* to file an issue, so I really can't
understand why I would get slapped by QA. If we want people to use
OpenOffice.org, we need to make resources available to assist them.

T. J. Frazier wrote:
> Hi, Raphael
> 
> Raphael Bircher wrote:
>> Hi at all
>>
>> T. J. Frazier schrieb:
>>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>> a very short update on this...and ai yi yi...maybe a case of too much
>>>> information and where to find it. I'm going to add the qa project's
>>>> "Submit an Issue" page to the support page as a start. Yes, this is
>>>> indeed where most people would go, and so why not? It seems using the
>>>> handy search in the middle of the page does a decent job for a start.
>>>>
>>> Kay,
>>>
>>> Thanks for adding the link. I'm sure a lot of users will bless you
>>> for it.
>> And the QA Team will slep you ;-) No, I find this Idea realy bad. The
>> only result that I expect is more issue with lower quality. Not only a
>> load of dublicate, also a load of invalid issues. Thats realy not the
>> thint, that's usefull for the project. Please discuss it on the QA
>> List first.
>>>
>> Thanks
>> Raphael
>>
> More issues, yes. Bad issues? Perhaps yes, perhaps no. Making the users
> work hard, wading through our web site, to file an issue, surely makes
> them angry (or angrier). Angry users file lower-quality issues. Also,
> dealing with the Issue Tracker interface is very annoying, with the same
> bad result. I have suggested that we do something about that.
> 
> Duplicate issues are another problem, where I don't have the answers. At
> present, there is an art to writing a good summary, and an art to
> searching for prior reports, without getting buried in hundreds of
> possibilities.  We should reduce that art to a science, but I haven't
> any idea how to do that; a front-end wizard might help.
> 
> We want to be careful how we filter issues: "Level of effort to file" is
> not a good filter. Applying /reductio ad absurdum/ to your logic, we
> could eliminate all duplicate and invalid issues, by removing all links
> to IT. We'd get no good issues, either...
> -- 
> /tj/
> 
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