Hi Marcus--

oh boy! Well thanks for the update. Considering we want the user to
have the best experience possible, I do understand better about this.
It's just all these permutations and the latest change in the "schema"
naming has really COMPLICATED the download scripting to the point that
I think these are really non-maintainable almost. I do really wish
some of this could be re-considered, re-discussed or I don't know
what.

Thanks again for the update.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 05/28/2010 01:12 PM, Marcus Lange wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>
> Hello Kay,
>
>>>>>> I can probably get the new idea to work...but...I'm still not convinced
>>>>>> this is really the best approach. And, I think it would far better to
>>>>>> spell out what the consequences will be is you don't have a JRE.
>>>>>>
>>>>> This was already tried in the past. Maybe you could take this to release
>>>>> meeting?
>>>>>
>>>> And? and, I don't know how to "take this to release  meeting". Help! and
>>>> thanks for your reply.
>>>>
>>> OK, I can try it and will let you know. But first I'll proof my assumtions
>>> about the functionality that needs Java.
>>>
>>
>> great! thanks...
>
> there are several places were the JRE is used:
>
> At the moment it's not possible to take every corner into accout as I would 
> have to ask nearly every developer. But the following are IMHO really main 
> topics:
>
> Installer:
> The installer on Unix OSs are using the JRE. For Windows the native MSI 
> technology is used. Especially on Linux we cannot know what is maybe 
> preinstalled and how suitable it is. Of course OOo should install/run on 
> famous and not so common distributions preferably without problems.
>
> Wizards:
> Every wizard that canbe used via menu "File - Wizard" is using Java.
>
> Base:
> The included default database engine HSQLDB needs an JRE to work.
> Also the Sun extensions like the Report Builder is using Java.
>
> Furthermore the story behind the integration is that we want to make sure 
> that the user is able to work with every function in OOo (and eventually 
> extension) out-of-the-box. A separate and manual installation of the JRE is 
> not wished. So, this can be fullfilled at best when providing the JRE 
> together with the OOo package.
>
> So, as a result I don't think that we can switch to builds without JRE 
> totally.
>
> Best regards
>
> Marcus
>
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