Hi *,

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> * why do we *by default* include a JRE? I still would argue this is NOT
>> a good idea or necessary for the most part
>
> I was told that the installer needs Java to work, at least on Unix.

That's a stupid answer. If you need java to install, but java is part
of the install, then you got the chicken-egg problem.

You need another installer that installs the included jre first, and
then launch a java based installer.
This is stupid. I cannot find another word for it.

Besides installing debs or rpms using a java installer is a stupid
thing to do anyway.

Doesn't make it any better that at least the rpms of a java from
java.com are a nightmare packaging wise. They abuse the packaging
system.
Any distribution out there has Sun-Java in their repositories, openjdk as well.

ciao
Christian

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