HI--- On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> wrote: > Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Kay Schenk wrote: > > Hi Christian, > >>>> * why do we *by default* include a JRE? I still would argue this is NOT >>>> a good idea or necessary for the most part >>> >>> I was told that the installer needs Java to work, at least on Unix. >> >> That's a stupid answer. If you need java to install, but java is part >> of the install, then you got the chicken-egg problem. >> >> You need another installer that installs the included jre first, and >> then launch a java based installer. >> This is stupid. I cannot find another word for it. > > please don't shut the messenger. ;-) > >> Besides installing debs or rpms using a java installer is a stupid >> thing to do anyway. >> >> Doesn't make it any better that at least the rpms of a java from >> java.com are a nightmare packaging wise. They abuse the packaging >> system. >> Any distribution out there has Sun-Java in their repositories, openjdk as >> well. > > I'm sorry but at the moment it is like it is and cannot be cahnged. If you > think there is room for improvemant please file an issue for this.
I think what I'm going to work on is trying to determine if the user downloading ALREADY has a useful (version xxx? or higher) and DON'T automatically include a JRE if they do. This was the approach I was attempting to use last year when the detection mechanism wasn't really working very well. However, there have been improvements since then that I *think* can help here. But, yes, Christian DEFINITELY has a point! duh...why didn't I see that? I'm sorry this has taken me so long to get back to, but other crazy things have required my attention of late. Hopefully, I get something to demo by the end of the month. > > Best regards > > Marcus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." ~ Robert A. Heinlein --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
