On 06/08/2010 11:35 AM, Marcus Lange wrote: > Kay Schenk wrote: > > Hello Kay, > >> oh boy! Well thanks for the update. Considering we want the user to >> have the best experience possible, I do understand better about this. >> It's just all these permutations and the latest change in the "schema" >> naming has really COMPLICATED the download scripting to the point that > > with the new filename schema especially the scripting and filtering > should be easier than before. Now it's a clear thing with the "_" and > "-" as separator and binding characters. Before it was, hm, a mess with > all the exceptions. > >> I think these are really non-maintainable almost. I do really wish >> some of this could be re-considered, re-discussed or I don't know >> what. > > I don't think that it's not maintainable. I can still do this stuff. ;-)
ahemmm...well, it gives me a bit of headache to look at, and so much repition now for the various DL servers--bouncer vs mirrorbrain...but maybe the website "group" isn't even the right place to address these sorts of things (???) Ah for a nice DB backend to deal with some of this! > > But the release process doesn't fit anymore IMHO. Every language team > can release what and when they will. *This* is not maintainable and > foreseeable. We should really think about to improve some steps here. well some sort of an organizational chit-chat is in order IMNSHO...maybe this could be taken up by some appropriate parties at the next OO.o conf. I'll knock on a few virtual doors to see what can be done. I'll dig deeper this week and see if I can determine if more simplicity is possible. > > Best regards ..and to you > > Marcus > > > >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Kay Schenk wrote: >>>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Marcus Lange <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>>> On 05/28/2010 01:12 PM, Marcus Lange wrote: >>>>>>> Kay Schenk wrote: >>> Hello Kay, >>> >>>>>>>> I can probably get the new idea to work...but...I'm still not >>>>>>>> convinced >>>>>>>> this is really the best approach. And, I think it would far >>>>>>>> better to >>>>>>>> spell out what the consequences will be is you don't have a JRE. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> This was already tried in the past. Maybe you could take this to >>>>>>> release >>>>>>> meeting? >>>>>>> >>>>>> And? and, I don't know how to "take this to release meeting". >>>>>> Help! and >>>>>> thanks for your reply. >>>>>> >>>>> OK, I can try it and will let you know. But first I'll proof my >>>>> assumtions >>>>> about the functionality that needs Java. >>>>> >>>> great! thanks... >>> there are several places were the JRE is used: >>> >>> At the moment it's not possible to take every corner into accout as I >>> would have to ask nearly every developer. But the following are IMHO >>> really main topics: >>> >>> Installer: >>> The installer on Unix OSs are using the JRE. For Windows the native >>> MSI technology is used. Especially on Linux we cannot know what is >>> maybe preinstalled and how suitable it is. Of course OOo should >>> install/run on famous and not so common distributions preferably >>> without problems. >>> >>> Wizards: >>> Every wizard that canbe used via menu "File - Wizard" is using Java. >>> >>> Base: >>> The included default database engine HSQLDB needs an JRE to work. >>> Also the Sun extensions like the Report Builder is using Java. >>> >>> Furthermore the story behind the integration is that we want to make >>> sure that the user is able to work with every function in OOo (and >>> eventually extension) out-of-the-box. A separate and manual >>> installation of the JRE is not wished. So, this can be fullfilled at >>> best when providing the JRE together with the OOo package. >>> >>> So, as a result I don't think that we can switch to builds without >>> JRE totally. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Marcus > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > -- ============================================================ Kay Schenk ph: 530-898-5339 Applications Development and Enterprise Design CSU, Chico "Until you're ready to look foolish, you'll never have the possibility of being great." -- Cher --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
