So, I have created the submodule and moved the inspector bug as well as the
new stateless checker over to the submodule.  The code is in my experimental
branch, and tagged [1].

Question: do we want to include this in 1.4?  In theory, it shouldn't be
able to break anything because nobody's been using it unless they were
compiling wicket-examples as a jar themselves.  In which case, this will be
a welcome change.

Next question: I'm going to continue with the rest of the things we
discussed in my branch.  Will we want to include any of that in 1.4?  Or
should it wait until 1.4.1?

--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com



On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Oops - forgot link:
>
> [1] - http://www.symfony-project.org/
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Jeremy Thomerson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yes - I agree.  I think that would be the next step.  I've been doing some
>> work on a PHP site lately - which at first I thought I was going to hate.
>> But everyone at that company only knew PHP - so I chose to go with Symfony
>> [1] - and I've enjoyed it. Anyway, the point is - they have a great floating
>> toolbar at the top right of the screen in development mode that gives you
>> each query that was run, logging output for that request, timing for
>> different cycles of the request, etc.  It's great.
>>
>> I'd love to build something like it that would allow you to register
>> various contributors to add different details to the debug bar.
>>
>> But I think that the proposal below is sort of the first step towards
>> that.
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Igor Vaynberg 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> martijn and matej and i talked about having a floating console that
>>> can be enabled at runtime and that would host all these kinds of
>>> tools. so basically extending or  encorporating our existing ajax
>>> console into something much more powerful. seems like if we move away
>>> from having these tools as pages and making them panels we can create
>>> a console.
>>>
>>> -igor
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Please review WICKET-670 [1] and give your input.  The idea is
>>> basically
>>> > that we want to be able to use the inspector bug and associated
>>> > development-time utilities in our applications.  Currently, the
>>> inspector
>>> > bug is built into wicket-examples, which builds as a war, which makes
>>> it
>>> > difficult to include in your app.  We just added the
>>> @StatelessComponent
>>> > annotation and associated checker to wicket-core which is meant for
>>> > development time error catching.
>>> >
>>> > I'm proposing that we:
>>> >
>>> >   - Create subpackage wicket-devutils (by subpackage, I mean a maven
>>> >   submodule, etc, similar to wicket-extensions - lives as a folder in
>>> the
>>> >   wicket core tree)
>>> >   - In it, put the inspector page(s), inspector bug and related
>>> utilties as
>>> >   well as the new @StatelessComponent
>>> >   - Add to it a common place that all such dev utilities get their
>>> on/off
>>> >   switch (which will read from application's debug settings, perhaps)
>>> >   - Enable it in dev by default, off in prod by default, but have a way
>>> >   that it can be enabled in production (by setting the value in debug
>>> >   settings)
>>> >   - As Jon suggested - the pages will throw an exception if they are
>>> >   accessed and are disabled at the time.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?  I'd like to get this done in the 1.4 release so that it's
>>> > available to all those who pick up Wicket in the next year while we're
>>> > working on 1.5.
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-670
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Jeremy Thomerson
>>> > http://www.wickettraining.com
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>
>

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