[image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Amos Elberg <amos.elb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since subtlety has not worked, I will now be blunter. > > The reason PR 208 has been delayed since August is that Felix Cheung > demanded that I credit him as a co-author even though he hadn't done > any work. > > When I refused, Felix privately contacted Moon, who is his friend, and > claimed the PR contained Felix' intellectual property. Moon then held > the PR at Felix' request. > > I found out what happened after I pursued Moon to ask why the PR had > been ignored. When he told me what happened, I had to offer e-mail > chains and commit logs to prove that Felix was lying. > > Since then, its been one bogus, junk reason for delay after another. > For a while, this seems to be because Moon wanted to give Felix time to > produce a competing implementation. Except, Felix wasn't able to do > it. I caught him trying to pass-off code he'd stolen as his own, with > Moon (who should have known) present. > > When I confronted Moon he told me, basically, "don't rock our boat." > > If anyone has any doubt about whether what I've said is true, I have the > email chains, the commit logs, the chat records... > > I believe the reason PRs have been delayed is that they conflicted with > other goals of either NFLabs, or friends of committers. Such as security > PRs, when NFlabs offers multi-user functionality commercially and outside > the project. > > > > > > Here are my comments on the draft checklist: > > > QU10The project is open and honest about the quality of its code. > > Various levels of quality and maturity for various modules are > > natural and acceptable as long as they are clearly communicated. > > Yes > > The project has been quite defensive concerning code quality, and > everything else really. As just one example, when the CI issues were > first reported, the response for some three months was "there can't be > anything wrong so we won't bother looking." Now its acknowledged that > CI is basically broken for the whole project. > > There are many such examples. > > > QU20The project puts a very high priority on producing secure > > software. > > Yes > > The evidence is otherwise. > > While many people ask about security features, the response has always > been from the PMC "some day," with no progress made. When community > members tried to contribute the code --- the Shiro PR was inexplicably > delayed by 4+ months; and the reaction to the new multi-user PR already > seems unusual, etc. > > Maybe the project intends to make security a priority in the future. > But so far it has not. > > > QU40The project puts a high priority on backwards compatibility and > > aims to document any incompatible changes and provide tools and > > documentation to help users transition to new features. > > Yes > > There is no such documentation. There have been changes to, e.g., the > way Zeppelin has to be configured, the way Spark integrates with > Zeppelin, etc., that broke code and broke installations, but were never > documented. > > I think the belief is "there are no incompatibilities so there's > nothing to document." But that is not the case. > > > QU50The project strives to respond to documented bug reports in a > > timely manner.Yes > > 0.5.6 contained a patch for a bug where the PR was submitted in > *September*, before even 0.5.5. Bug reports from multiple people and > the PR were ignored -- until Twitter complained. > > This is just one example. > > > LC40 Committers are bound by an Individual Contributor Agreement (the > > "Apache iCLA") that defines which code they are allowed to commit > > and how they need to identify code that is not their own. > > Yes > > There is no way that Felix's conduct about 208 is consistent with the > iCLA. In addition, Moon knew about that conduct, and didn't do anything > about it. > > > CO20 > > The community welcomes contributions from anyone who acts in good > > faith and in a respectful manner and adds value to the project. > > Yes > > See above. > > > CO40The community is meritocratic and over time aims to give more > > rights and responsibilities to contributors who add value to the > > project. > > Yes > > Since incubation began, the PMC has added only one committer who isn't > an affiliate of NFLabs. > > That person is not a programmer and has made no contribution to the > Zeppelin codebase. > > > CO50 > > The way in which contributors can be granted more rights such as > > commit access or decision power is clearly documented and is the same > > for all contributors. > > Yes > > See above. > > > CS50All "important" discussions happen asynchronously in written form > > on the project's main communications channel. Offline, face-to-face > > or private discussions that affect the project are also documented on > > that channel. > > Yes > > Absolutely not the case. Email chains available on request. > > > IN10The project is independent from any corporate or organizational > > influence. > > Yes > > I'm not so sure... > > > > On Thu, 2016-02-04 at 23:50 +0000, moon soo Lee wrote: > > I have filled out all checklists and commented as much as i can. > > > > Please review > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZEPPELIN/Apache+Zeppelin+ > > Project+Maturity+Model > > . > > > > Did i filled out correctly? Any feedback would be really appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > moon > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:03 AM moon soo Lee <m...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > I have created > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/ZEPPELIN/Apache+Zeppeli > > > n+Project+Maturity+Model and > > > trying to fill out Apache Maturity Model checklist. > > > > > > Let me notify this thread when everything is filled out. > > > And any comment, help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > moon > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 3:55 AM Roman Shaposhnik < > > > ro...@shaposhnik.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > In general I agree. That said, if one of you guys were to fill > > > > out the > > > > Apache Maturity Model > > > > checklist that would help frame the IPMC discussion. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Roman. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Mina Lee <mina...@apache.org> > > > > wrote: > > > > > I think Zeppelin meets the requirements for graduation. > > > > > > > > > > Zeppelin community is growing fast and getting more diverse. > > > > > Number of > > > > > contributors has increased more than 7 times and three new > > > > > committers > > > > are > > > > > admitted since Zeppelin became Apache podling project. And > > > > > release, vote > > > > > related discussions have adopted ASF way so far. > > > > > Also Zeppelin is the one of the projects making big synergy > > > > > with other > > > > > apache projects by providing different back-end interpreters(ex > > > > > spark, > > > > > hive, flink, hbase, cassandra, etc) > > > > > > > > > > so +1 for graduation. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:13 AM, madhuka udantha < > > > > madhukaudan...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:59 PM, DuyHai Doan < > > > > > > doanduy...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading the link provided by Leemoonsoo about the > > > > > > > Apache > > > > project > > > > > > > maturity model. ( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-mo > > > > del.html > > > > ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > QU20 The project puts a very high priority on producing > > > > > > > > secure > > > > software > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's related to security and I know that there is a commit > > > > > > > on Shiro > > > > > > > authentication already by hayssams (kudo to him by the > > > > > > > way). There is > > > > > > also > > > > > > > some JIRA ticket to add documentation about Kerberos ( > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-zeppelin/pull/640). > > > > > > > Don't know > > > > if > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > is a JIRA to add doc for Shiro yet. Anyway, on the chapter > > > > > > > of > > > > security, > > > > > > all > > > > > > > the works are being done and are on good way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Community topic, I think all the points are > > > > > > > covered (for > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > becoming a committer (point CO50) is clearly documented in > > > > > > CONTRIBUTING.md) > > > > > > > as well as consensus (point CO60). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Under the Consensus Building chapter, every discussion > > > > > > > related to > > > > release > > > > > > > or votes have been exposed so far publicly on the mailing > > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I see, all the points are covered. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now my personal opinion as a community member is that it's > > > > > > > high > > > > time for > > > > > > > the project to graduate. Until now I did not feel > > > > > > > comfortable > > > > advising > > > > > > > Zeppelin for customers to deploy in production because of > > > > > > > lack of > > > > > > security > > > > > > > but since security support (at least for authentication) is > > > > > > > in the > > > > trunk > > > > > > > and the improvements are on the way, I don't see any > > > > > > > blocker anymore. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So a big +1 for me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Ahyoung Ryu < > > > > > > > ahyoungry...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Totally agree with @anthonycorbacho. I think it's time to > > > > > > > > graduate > > > > and > > > > > > > step > > > > > > > > forward. > > > > > > > > So, ++1 ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016년 2월 4일 목요일, Anthony Corbacho< > > > > > > > > anthonycorba...@apache.org>님이 > > > > 작성한 > > > > > > 메시지: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont see any reason why we shouldn't start a vote. > > > > > > > > > unlike release, it doesnt require any specific features > > > > > > > > > (For > > > > specific > > > > > > > > > feature like R or ACL, we can add it as a requirement > > > > > > > > > for the > > > > first > > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > as TLP), > > > > > > > > > so for me its a big +1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Victor Manuel Garcia < > > > > > > > > > victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion we can graduate from the incubator. I > > > > > > > > > > think we > > > > all > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > controlled procedures, regardless of new features > > > > > > > > > > that also > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > improved or adding . For example we need to greatly > > > > > > > > > > improve the > > > > > > > > > > documentation, but i since is not necesary for > > > > > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congrats for the work...!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2016-02-04 9:13 GMT+01:00 Alexander Bezzubov < > > > > > > > > > > b...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;>>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jakob, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for pointing this out, it is exactly as > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > describe > > > > > > > (there > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > 3 releases since joining the incubator) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If we could keep this thread focused on graduation > > > > > > > > > > > and get > > > > more > > > > > > > > > oppinions > > > > > > > > > > > from other participants - that would awesome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its great to see people volonteering to help with > > > > > > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > the next release here, but please feel free to fork > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > thread > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > discussion on technical details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016, 08:51 Jakob Homan < > > > > > > > > > > > jgho...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all- > > > > > > > > > > > > A data point and observation from an ASF > > > > > > > > > > > > Member and > > > > > > Incubator > > > > > > > > PMC > > > > > > > > > > > > Member... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Moon is correct that readiness for graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > function > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > community development and adherence to the Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > Way, > > > > rather > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > > > specific feature or tech milestones. Since > > > > > > > > > > > > entering > > > > Incubator, > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeppelin's had two relatively easy releases, has > > > > > > > > > > > > finished > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > incubation checklist > > > > > > > > > > > > (http://incubator.apache.org/projects/zeppelin.ht > > > > > > > > > > > > ml), has > > > > > > added > > > > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > > > > commiters, etc. In short, Zeppelin's in a good > > > > > > > > > > > > position to > > > > > > > > graduate > > > > > > > > > > > > from my perspective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Resolution of specific PRs should be handled > > > > > > > > > > > > in a speedy > > > > > > > matter, > > > > > > > > > > > > but there doesn't seem to be any disagreement to > > > > > > > > > > > > that - > > > > just > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > > > > left to be done in getting them in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jakob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2016 at 23:39, Amos B. Elberg < > > > > > > > amos.elb...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see a point to splitting it. The reason > > > > > > > > > > > > > we didn't > > > > > > merge > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > December is that bugs in CI prevented the tests > > > > > > > > > > > > *in* 208 > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > functioning. > > > > > > > > > > > > It wasn't causing anything else to fail. Now CI > > > > > > > > > > > > is broken > > > > for > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > project > > > > > > > > > > > > anyway. If it was going to be split, I would do > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > myself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The reliability of the code has been proven in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the field: > > > > > > > People > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > > don't use R have switched to the version of 208 > > > > > > > > > > > > in my repo > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > compiles reliably when 0.5.6 does not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has been outstanding since August, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's very > > > > hard to > > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > > a reason - you even participated in a Meetup in > > > > > > > > > > > > September > > > > > > where a > > > > > > > > > > variant > > > > > > > > > > > > of the code in the PR was used as a demonstration > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > Zeppelin's > > > > > > > > > > > > capabilities and potential. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of being an Apache project is dealing with > > > > significant > > > > > > PRs > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > outside the core development team. Addressing > > > > > > > > > > > > these issues > > > > > > for > > > > > > > R, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > Prasad's PR, seems like a good test of project > > > > > > > > > > > > maturity. > > > > These > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > features on the roadmap which were supposed to be > > > > > > > > > > > > included > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > first > > > > > > > > > > > > non-beta release. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2016, at 12:50 AM, moon soo Lee < > > > > m...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Sourav for interest in this discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and very > > > > > > > valuable > > > > > > > > > > > opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I completely agree how much R and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Authentication (which > > > > i > > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Zeppelin) will be useful for users. And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe me, I > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features in Zeppelin more than anyone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But at the same time we have diversity of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user bases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people might think supporting general > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JDBC is more > > > > > > > > practical > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > useful feature, the other can think multi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -tenancy is the > > > > > > most > > > > > > > > > > > important, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, i believe Apache Top Level project is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defined by how > > > > > > > > community > > > > > > > > > > > > works, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not defined by what feature does the software > > > > > > > > > > > > > > includes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding bringing R into main branch, I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tried to make > > > > pr208 > > > > > > > > > passes > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > CI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I could able to make it pass 1 test profile, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > couldn't > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > pass > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other test profiles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm suggesting split the contribution into > > > > > > > > > > > > > > smaller > > > > peaces > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > merge > > > > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one. Like Hayssam did it for his contribution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Shiro > > > > > > > security > > > > > > > > > > > > integration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (pr586). And I'm volunteering making pr208 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into smaller > > > > PRs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:11 PM Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mazumder < > > > > > > > > > > > > sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This does make sense Moon. Completely agree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with you > > > > that > > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > important for becoming a top level project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, in my opinion, from the practical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > usage > > > > > > standpoint, > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two features Zeppelin does not look to me a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > fledged > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curious whether there are any technical > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > glitches which > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > impediment > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bringing these features to the main branch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wondering > > > > if > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to get those problems fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 4:22 PM, moon soo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lee < > > > > > > > m...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think any feature (R or whatever) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > prerequisites > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation. Especially when a project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never setup > > > > those > > > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation goal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Including specific features could be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > valid concern for > > > > > > > release > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but i don't think it's related to a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Graduation is much more like if project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is doing it in > > > > > > > apache > > > > > > > > > way, > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > understanding. Last time the reason why i > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't go > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > > graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > vote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is, because of there were valid concern > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > contribution > > > > > > > > > > impasse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since that, community improved / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clarified > > > > contribution > > > > > > > guide > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > review > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > process. And Zeppelin PPMC members were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trying to help > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > > contributions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they have been as a open PR for a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > long time. > > > > > > > (Especially > > > > > > > > > > > Jongyoul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Felix helped a lot) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, let's move discussions like 'which > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature should > > > > be > > > > > > > > > included' > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release / roadmap discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the graduation discussion, i'd like to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have an > > > > > > > discussions, > > > > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > evaluating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-mo > > > > del.html > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does this make sense for you guys? Amos, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eran, Sourav? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 8:05 AM Amos B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Elberg < > > > > > > > > > > > amos.elb...@gmail.com <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No Eran is right. The last vote for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation > > > > passed-it > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > withdrawn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in favor of releasing 0.5.6. It passed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and there was > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > feedback > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mentors concerning graduation, R, and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some other > > > > issues. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > last public discussion about graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > until today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex if you disagree with that do you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have links to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you're referring to. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:34 PM, Alexander > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bezzubov < > > > > > > > > > b...@apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Eran, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks for sharing your oppinion! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could you please check my previous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reply about > > > > release > > > > > > > > > schedulle > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know if that makes sense to you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, please our mentors > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correct me if I'm > > > > wrong > > > > > > > here, > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reading [1] I was under impression > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that project > > > > does not > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pre-request > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regarding its code or features in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > order to undergo > > > > this > > > > > > > > formal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > procedure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Gra > > > > duating+from+the+Incubator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016, 20:04 Eran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Witkon < > > > > > > > > eranwit...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I recall correctly R support was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of the > > > > > > > > pre-requisite > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from day one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree that Authentication should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be added as > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for graduation after we add both > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Eran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 at 20:24 Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mazumder < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sourav.mazumde...@gmail.com <javascript > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :;>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Surely I vote for the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeppelin is already > > > > very > > > > > > > > popular > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quarts of the Spark/Big Data user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group. High > > > > time to > > > > > > > > > graduate > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I shall suggest to have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the support for > > > > R and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Authentication > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > added > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to Zeppelin before that. These > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the supports > > > > most > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eagerly waiting for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:23 AM, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon soo Lee < > > > > > > > > > > m...@apache.org <javascript:;>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Alexander for resuming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's start a vote. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 11:11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PM Alexander > > > > Bezzubov < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b...@apache.org <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Zeppelin developers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > now, after number of releases > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and committers > > > > grew > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the re-new the discussion of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > graduating > > > > Zeppelin to > > > > > > > top > > > > > > > > > > level > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there are on objections - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > next step would be > > > > to > > > > > > > > start a > > > > > > > > > > > VOTE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thread > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you guys think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > *Victor Manuel Garcia Martinez* > > > > > > > > > > *Software Engeenier > > > > > > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *+34 672104297 | victor.gar...@beeva.com <javascript > > > > > > > > > > :;> < > > > > > > > > > marta.ta...@beeva.com <javascript:;>>* > > > > > > > > > > * | > > > > > > victormanuel.garcia.marti...@bbva.com > > > > > > > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > <marta.ta...@bbva.com <javascript:;>>* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.beeva.com/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Madhuka Udantha > > > > > > http://madhukaudantha.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
