On 05/14/2013 09:51 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
This is not intended to be snarky, but I admit it could sound like it is.  When 
are long startup times for services considered to be bugs in their own right?


[root@f19q ~]# systemd-analyze blame
       1min 444ms sm-client.service
       1min 310ms sendmail.service
         18.602s firewalld.service
          13.882s avahi-daemon.service
          12.944s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
          12.715s restorecond.service
           2.911s abrt-uefioops.service
           2.792s NetworkManager.service
           2.634s spice-vdagentd.service
           2.589s iprinit.service
           2.583s iprupdate.service
           2.319s chronyd.service


10 seconds for a service seems obscene. 1 minute is so bad it's hilarious, but 
also really annoying. I feel like filing a bug against anything that takes more 
than 1/2 second but maybe that's being overly generous (by filing the bug, that 
is).

In sendmail's defense, the time is about the same on F18. (It's consistently a 
bit faster in an F19 VM running on the same F18 system as host.)

Check your /etc/hosts and ensure you have an entry there for you hostname and or your hostname exist in your dns


But firewalld goes from 7 seconds to 18 seconds? Why? avahi-daemon, 
restorecond, all are an order of magnitude longer on F19 than F18. It's a 3+ 
minute userspace hit on the startup time where the kernel takes 1.9 seconds. 
Off hand this doesn't seem reasonable, especially sendmail. If the time can't 
be brought down by a lot, can it ship disabled by default?


The "defaults" we ship and are enable are not useful to anyone neither the server community nor the desktop one.

All the abrt services arguably should disabled by default and enabled after users have agreed to using it ( opt in not opt out ) .

I did look into optimizing the boot of one of the spins in F16 but never ended up putting my findings and POC to practice and make a usable spin out of it there most definitely is room on the for better out of the box boot experience for our users.

JBG
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