On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, Peter Cavender wrote:
> Well, you can nuke them with an rpm -e <packagename>
But you may cause problems if you do.
> Nowadays, since e-smith runs at a non-standard runlevel and normal Linux
> tools do not apply, you have to get down & dirty.
No, you don't have to get down & dirty.
/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop atalk status disabled
/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop lpd status disabled
/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop smb status disabled
/sbin/e-smith/signal-event console-save
> 1) Forget the non-standard run-level stuff! I missed the arguments on why
> runlevel 3 wa not good enough, but I still disagree!
IOW, I know that you generously and carefully explained all this, but I
didn't listen, but I still know that what you said is crap.
> 2) This "self-healing" crap is for the birds, excluding flightless
> antartic waterfoul. I custimize my setup, but the next time I go through
> the console setup and reboot, it re-up-gerfuckulates things again. YES, i
> know I can spend god knows how long editing template files ad nauseum, but
> I think that a knowledgable user should not be hampered by the mentality
> that Dilbert's boss'es nephew may mangle the setup and it needs to be
> "healed". Remember, uncontrolled and automatic "healing" is what causes
> cancer.
You can do whatever you want with your copy of the server.
> 3) Don't get me wrong...I have been an e-smith user and cheerleader for
> over 2 years, and I use it at home and at work (3.1)....what seduced me
> was the 20 minute install and 3 minute
> configure.
That hasn't changed.
> As I learned more Linux stuff, I decided to make
> modifications to the base setup....with each release it has become more
> and more difficult to make tweaks without having it "healed", or learning
> the template scheme.
With each release, it has become *more* possible to make custom changes
without unnecessary fights with the software.
> 7) MY proposals for forks:
> a) router/gateway only, ala LRP with sex appeal
> b) above, with qmail and apache
> c) above, with every e-smith feature, easily configured by
> non-stoopid people
> d) above, in heal mode, ala version 4.x
All this can be easily accomplished using the configuration database and
the template system.
Now please go take an aspirin and take a lie down. You seem to have been
working too hard or something.
> PS See you all at the ByTown soon!
Didn't spot you there last night :-)
Charlie Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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