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> From: w9ya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I am sugggesting that by incorporating firewalling into this
> product, and  declaring it to be a "security solution", the die was
> cast to cause these  issues we are now discussing.

        I disagree, and would make so bold as to suggest that this statement
indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem.  The problem
is inherent in the way e-smith/SME performs the gateway (or routing)
function, which has been the same since at least the days of version
3.0 (and probably earlier, but 3.0 is when I started using it).

        With version 3.0, e-smith did not include the ip_masq_icq module (I
remember having to compile it myself), and without that module, some
ICQ functions didn't work (in particular, direct file transfer and
direct chat; others may have been affected as well).  Once installed,
that module would perform the appropriate translation on the packets
to allow these functions.  Unfortunately, not being intimately
familiar with either the ICQ protocol or kernel programming, I can't
describe the situation in more detail.  However, I think this
adequately demonstrates that the problem is inherent in the "gateway"
function, not in the "security" function (which was considerably less
involved at version 3.0).

        Now, you seem to be saying that there are other distros which use
masqing with a 2.4 kernel, and have full support for all the
functions of ICQ, h.323, realaudio, etc.  At least two of us have
asked for details on these, but you have not responded.  I ask you
again: which ones?  If this is not what you are claiming, would you
please clarify?

- -- 
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Since all the world is but a story, it were well for thee to buy the
more enduring story rather than the story that is less enduring."
 -- The Judgment of St. Colum Cille 

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