On Tuesday 16 December 2003 07:37 pm, Charlie Brady wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Tuesday 16 December 2003 11:11 am, Gordon Rowell wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 08:30:58AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > It has been a long wait for some packages, and it is nice to see.
> > >
> > > Please provide specifics - you presumably have packages in mind with
> > > such a statement - what are they?
> >
> > Is this is truely important, now that it appears that you have complied
> > with releasing everything ?
>
> For the most part, there is nothing to "comply" with, Bob. Mitel is the
> copyright holder to the e-smith-* packages in the SME server. The GPL does
> not apply to Mitel for these packages, and Mitel is under no obligation to
> release the source. When it does so, it is a gift, to you and the
> community. The GPL attached to these packages is the license that Mitel
> gives you.

Once again, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I say thank you for 
supplying the source code.

As to packages that were not forthcoming in the past, and ONLY because you 
guys can't seem  to leave my thank you lie still, here's a partial list of 
the items that were , as of quite recently, not forthcoming with source;

ServiceLink 6.0 - based on Mitel SME Server (GPL)

Blades:
-- Fax Server Blade - based on mgetty+sendfax (GPL)
-- Free/Busy Scheduling Blade - based on Mitel SME Server (GPL)
-- Groupware Blade - based on Twig (GPL)
-- Instant Messaging Blade - based on Jabber (GPL)
-- Web Access Control Blade - based on Squidguard (GPL)

And, as I said in the previous message, there were reasons given in the past 
as to why they were not forthcoming, but I am glad that Mitel is now 
releasing this source as it should do with it being in GPL.

>
> > If so then I can supply some details.
>
> You made the accusation/insinuation, so you should clarify exactly what
> you have had a long wait for. It seems that you feel you have been badly
> treated by me/us/Mitel. Perhaps you can explain why you feel that.

I said nothing to give you this impression concerning my "feel"ings. Nothing. 
So there is nothing to explain. As I said  repeatedly, I am pleased the 
source code is all being released. That should be welcomed and not overly 
critiqued. It *really* is a thank you I sent out.

>
> > However I am, as I stated above, thrilled that you guys are doing all
> > that you can to make sure all the source is around to use in the future.
>
> I'm curious, Bob, as to why you are so interested in the source
> availability. Are you planning to make some modifications? Do you have any
> source code to share with us?

I am interested, because it was promised at one point, and (again....sigh) I 
wanted to thank you guys for placing it with contribs.org.

I can send another reply to your reply to this message, and repeat myself 
again if necessary. i.e. If you like to hear me respond with thank you, I can 
keep doing that.

Regards;

Bob Finch


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