I see one group saying that all parts of freenet are sufficiently up-to-date and
one group of people saying the opposite. How about a compromise way:
Picking one part of freenet, which needs to be updated the most for potential 
freenet developers,
and picking one part of freenet, which needs to be updated the most for users,
and decide to update these both parts within the next releases of freenet?
Then the one group only needs to decide, which parts of freenet are said both 
parts...


Greetings,
Torben Lechner

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: Ian <i...@locut.us>
Datum: 01.10.2015 06:17:24
An: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de>
Betreff: Re: [freenet-dev] Behind the times

> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_...@web.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Am Mittwoch, 30. September 2015, 08:42:38 schrieb Ian:
> > > I'm not opposed to using signing if we can do it without keeping
> the
> > > project stuck in 2001's development tools - because that will pretty-much
> > > guarantee its slow death.
> >
> > Are we actually stuck in 2001?s development tools?
> >
>
> When it comes to dependency management, yes.  Maven started in 2002, and
> has become standard in the years since.
>
> There might be some tools which are not up to date, but that?s either
> > because no one took it up, or because the benefit does not outweight
> > the cost (we have to update all contributors to the new system, and
> we
> > have quite diverse development setups).
>
>
> > There are more important things to do ? like getting the debian
> > package working again. And for that, using proven though sometimes a
> > bit clunky systems is an advantage.
>
>
> I'd say a higher priority would be making Freenet look remotely like a
> modern piece of software.  So many aspects of Freenet seem like a time
> capsule from over a decade ago.
>
> Ian.
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