There exists a pure java implementation of a Tor client - https://subgraph.com/orchid/index.en.html apologies if this has already been brought up, searching archives is hard (TM)
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 9:41 AM, xor <x...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > On Tuesday, October 06, 2015 09:10:28 AM Ian Clarke wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 4:39 AM, xor <x...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > > > [Sorted/trimmed/amended the quotes for readability] > > > > > > On Monday, October 05, 2015 12:52:08 PM Ian Clarke wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 12:57 AM, xor <x...@freenetproject.org> wrote: > > > > Right, but it appears that solutions exist for this with Gradle. > > > > > > "Apache Ant" = 1 320 000 Google hits > > > "Gradle" = 957 000 Google hits > > > > That's a terribly unscientific way to assess the popularity of a tool. > As > > a professional Java developer please take my word for it when I say that > > Apache Ant is an outdated tool, it has been replaced by Maven, and Maven > is > > in the process of being replaced by Gradle (although we're early in that > > process). If you don't believe me just ask Google, they selected Gradle > as > > the standard build tool for Android. Or failing that just ask almost any > > other professional Java developer, they'll tell you the same thing. > > Yes, you're right, thats a toy metric - I just couldn't think of any other > one, sorry. > Your observation that Google uses it sounds like a good one! > > I also wasn't aware that you're actively doing Java development, so now > I'll > trust you even more with what you say. > > As I've exhausted my knowledge about the stuff (which wasn't any deep > anyway, > I never even read a Maven/Gradle script), I think this should be my last > reply > to this aspect if that's OK with you. > > To produce a result, I filed bugtracker entries at my subprojects to adopt > whatever the results of this thread will be: > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=6697 > https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=6698 > > I have set the target versions in the roadmap to be the ones right after > the > most critical pending performance / usability fixes. > > > > > If someone wants to use both Freenet and Tor then they can download > them > > > > individually, but I see no good reason to bundle two independent > pieces > > > > > > of > > > > > > > software just because they both solve related (but different) > problems. > > > > > > Well, the question is if the user's care about the difference: > > That seems like a very peculiar criteria with which to decide to bundle > any > > two projects. If a user didn't care about the difference between Freenet > > and Angry Birds, should we bundle it with Angry Birds? > > > > The only good criteria for bundling two pieces of software is that the > > combination is dramatically more useful than either individually (eg. if > > one depends on the other). That wouldn't be the case here, it would just > > be two somewhat related pieces of software glued together for no good > > reason. > > I think there even is one of those anecdotal "laws" about this, which is > something like: "Every software project converges towards becoming a full > operating system." > :D (if someone knows the name of that law, please tell me) > > The reason I recommended this is the large amount of users which come to > the > support chat and ask for Tor-functionality :| > It's sad that we cannot help them easily. > > However, I think we can settle this for now as there is another good reason > for me to postpone my suggestion for a while: > The CENO project aims to provide easy mirroring of regular websites into > Freenet: https://equalit.ie/portfolio/censorship-no/ > > Before we consider bundling Tor, we should probably give them a year of > time > to get their stuff finished to the point where we can bundle it. > With CENO we wouldn't need Tor :) > I'm in contact with the developers (= idling in their IRC channel), and > will > continue to remind them to push for bundling. > > -- > hopstolive (keyword for Ians spam filter) > > _______________________________________________ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl > _______________________________________________ Devl mailing list Devl@freenetproject.org https://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl
