On Thursday, December 03, 2015 05:12:37 PM Arne Babenhauserheide wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 2. Dezember 2015, 14:34:41 schrieb Ian: > > That being said, I do think the project would significantly benefit from a > > new and much more engaged leader, ideally with project management > > experience, but unfortunately such people do not grow on trees when you > > need them to work voluntarily. Should we find such a person I would > > support them in a heartbeat. > > I think that the project is moving nicely at the moment. Yes, we have > less releases per year than back when we still had a paid core > developer and maintainer, but there is great work done in many areas — > and this month will see the first ever Freenet Hackathon. > > It feels like the Freenet developer community is more and more finding > its rhythm after having to completely reshape its workflows 2 years > ago when Matthew went to university. It feels like not a week passes > without anyone announcing a new improvement on IRC, pull-requests get > active reviews and are improved until they get merged, and the focus > is on doing things which improve Freenet for its users.
I fully agree! We *have* a good leader with Steve: He does review code whenever it is necessary, and he does make clear decisions. And people do follow his decisions (which I admit was initially bad at, but I hope to have improved and continue improving). The huge rants on the mailing list during the past few months are a very poor representation of the state of the project. As someone who reads all of the IRC backlog, I can say that we currently have so much development going on that a single person can barely read all of the new code written. Mac tray icon + installer fully revamped, the new website, lots of work on the new website's portability + l10n, Winterface being revived, a Gradle builder for it drafted, just the past few things I can remember... Overall, the biggest problem currently seems all those discussions here distracting the maintainers from doing whats actually important: Reviewing and deploying the hundreds of commits which are currently waiting to be released. Also, for the volunteers it is probably very frustrating to know how well we're doing in terms of them providing code, but then realize that all which the mailing list gets to hear about is claims of a poor state of the project, which just doesn't match the code situation. It feels like a situation of "management doesn't know what is happening in the company, and attempts wrong decisions from their lack of information", where management = mailing list discussion, company = the actual team on IRC. The work of the volunteers is neglected by that, which probably does make them really unhappy. And this is something which we cannot afford, because we currently have a large set of the most skilled volunteers I can remember ever having on the project. I can enumerate at least 7 people who regularly contribute code. So please people, be careful about jumping on yet another burning flamewar train :) While the observation of Ximin and Arne that this could be a psy-ops attack [1] does sound sort of paranoid, it is nevertheless an actual possibility: It would be a lot easier and cheaper than any other attack. It doesn't require the ability to write or understand code, you just need to be capable of offense :) As a productive alternate thing to do than those discussions, maybe participate in code review - there are many pending pull requests, for example 32 fred ones: https://github.com/freenet/fred/pulls Greetings! http://draketo.de/english/freenet/de-orchestrating-phk
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