On Thu, 2016-05-26 at 14:02 +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 6:55 AM, Steve Dougherty [email protected]
> wrote:
> I can understand if you're upset that Arne does not agree with you,
> but
> I don't understand what you're doing here. Do you expect that if you
> 
> berate Arne he will come around?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I expect that we can have a discussion based on facts and logic,
> during which we
> can disagree without being disagreeable, and after that discussion
> arrive at a
> logical conclusion. This is how healthy teams operate.
> 
> 
> You are being disrespectful. I'm not at
> all suggesting that you aren't allowed to disagree, or be honest, but
> 
> you seem to go about being honest by also being hurtful.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I do not believe I have been disrespectful, I have stated where I
> disagree with
> Arne and why. Arne began his email with an ultimatum that he would
> not use
> Google Docs to participate in the process I'm trying to create. Was
> that not
> disrespectful of my efforts to try to create a democratic process for
> prioritizing our roadmap? Am I not permitted to criticise Arne, but
> it is fine
> for him to nitpick relatively trivial aspects of what I'm trying to
> do?
> I feel like you are
> approaching this with the goal of shutting down those who disagree
> with
> 
> you, instead of collaborating and discussing with others to arrive at
> a
> 
> reasonable solution to a problem.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm trying to create a democratic process for prioritizing our
> roadmap so that
> we do not squander this $25k donation. Arne appears intent on
> fighting me at
> every step of the way, his refusal to use Google Docs being just one
> example.
> We have now spent hours of our time debating the Google Docs issue
> with people
> instead of advancing the project, which must be really hilarious to
> any opponent
> of our project that's watching us. It reminds me of the film “The
> Life of
> Brian”, in which the People's Front of Judea are so busy fighting
> with the
> Judean People's Front that they forget about the Romans who are
> supposed to be
> their common enemy.
> I also note Steve that you do not even try to address the substance
> of the
> disagreement, focusing exclusively on my tone. Do you agree with Arne
> that we
> shouldn't use Google Docs? If so, what are your reasons?
> Can we not have a debate based on facts and arrive at a logical
> conclusion at
> the end of that debate? That's how things used to work, and it worked
> pretty
> well.
> Ian.
> Ian Clarke
> 

Btw,

I also disagree with using google-docs; the reason being: it requires
registration to a 3rd party service whereas the alternatives (wiki or
piratepad) don't.

Florent

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