On Friday 22 May 2009 23:38:35 Matthew Toseland wrote:
> On Friday 22 May 2009 17:31:46 Cl?ment wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > First, let's see the current situation :
> >
> >
> > #Navigation :
> >
> > 9 items is really the max we can afford. Currently there are 9 items, but
> > they aren't all necessary, and can confuse the newbies.
>
> Agreed, we need sub-menus.
>
> > #Browse Freenet page :
> >
> > The ?Search Freenet? field and bookmarks are definitly a good thing.
> > However, why do we have :
> > ?Fetch a key? : we don't want to fetch a key, we want to browse Freenet.
>
> Some users DO want to fetch a key. But maybe it should be on the queue
> page.

I disagree. Fetching a key in Freenet is like entering an address in an 
internet browser, it should be very obvious where to do it!

>
> In which case we don't show the menu item.
>
> If we put all the messages on the main page in full, they take up so much
> space that newbies don't see the rest of the page.
>
> There are a number of messages that take up multiple slots on the message
> list when they should really just post a summary and point to another page
> where they are in full (e.g. n2ntms should be on the friends page, bookmark
> updates on the browse freenet page).
>
> We should probably either
> 1) not link the messages page from the main menu, but keep it, or
> 2) make messages expand themselves when you click on them

I think we should just keep the messages page a separate one, it is very 
useful because you can get an overview of ALL news in your node: Finished 
downloads, uploads, updated freesite, node-to-node messages from friends. It 
is very useful if you regularly visit your node and want to know if something 
has happened.

But expanding the messages via javascript is a nice idea, yes.


>
> > #Connections to friends + connections to strangers :
> >
> > Why 2 separate pages ?
>
> Because they are different! Friends and Strangers are completely different
> IMHO. Friends have names, you can send them text messages, etc. Strangers
> are just numbers - normal users don't care about their IP address, etc.

Full ACK. Friends page HAS to be separate to encourage users to establish 
darknet connections. Maybe we should even write something about Freenet 
becoming faster with more friend connections - if that's true?

- More download speed is usually something which can help to encourage users 
to do something.

>
> Putting the messages *only* here is a bad idea. Some of these messages are
> IMPORTANT. What we need to do is: - show the summary on the Browse Freenet
> page and maybe others

Summary should always been on Browse Freenet page, yes.


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