2017-10-03 17:34 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]>:

> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Thomas Mortagne <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > So your proposal focuses a lot more on the users instead of the apps
> > (like
> > > facebook for example). It's OK for me, but I think the type icon
> (create,
> > > edit, comment, etc...) is too small compared to the user face.
> > >
> > > Actually when I see these screenshot, my first impression is that the
> > user
> > > has been modified :) Would it be nice to have the type icon bigger than
> > the
> > > user face? To me, what happened is more important than who made it, but
> > > maybe it's only my feeling.
> >
> > Pretty much the same comments on my side. I find weird to focus that
> > much on users, I would have preferred images corresponding on the
> > change made.
> >
>
> Depends on what we want to focus on and also on what are user's
> expectations.
> If you look at the majority of notifcations in the wild, the user is the
> focus.
> People want to know who did what, on what page, when.
>

But Facebook, for example, is a social network. It focuses on people by
nature. On XWiki, it is not that evident. In the case of a knowledge base,
you focus more on the content (the knowledge) than on the people. On
xwiki.org, I guess you prefer seeing what's change instead of who made some
changes...

If we define XWiki as a collaboration tool, then you collaborate to create
something and so the focus is naturally more on that "something".

Just my 2 cents :)



>
>
> >
> > >
> > > Nice work anyway, as usual :)
> > >
> > > Guillaume
> > >
> > > 2017-10-03 9:50 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
> > [email protected]
> > >>:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> > On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Another feedback/questions:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user profile?
> > >>> >> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least for page
> > events
> > >>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we have currently in
> > the AS)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your example I see
> I
> > >>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both say “2 hours
> ago”.
> > >>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were done?
> > >>>
> > >>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type but not by
> > entity
> > >>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events displayed
> for
> > the
> > >>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> And you could also have different users grouped in the same composite
> > >> event. So when you display the details, it would be nice to show which
> > user
> > >> made each event, and I see you have removed this info.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> -Vincent
> > >>>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks
> > >>> > -Vincent
> > >>> >
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Thanks
> > >>> >> -Vincent
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>> >>>>
> > >>> >>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent
> > >>> >>>> from
> > >>> >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Notification
> > >>> sImprovements9x#HEventTypes
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from top to bottom
> > and
> > >>> stopped at the overview :)
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one unique icon
> per
> > >>> combination of app type + event type.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app type and
> one
> > >>> for the event type.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the following events:
> > >>> >>> * When a blog post is published
> > >>> >>> * When a blog post is created
> > >>> >>> * When a blog post is removed
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent the 3
> events.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of the Blog
> app.
> > A
> > >>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder and harder
> > to
> > >>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, especially if
> there’s
> > only
> > >>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + event type.
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> WDYT?
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>> Thanks
> > >>> >>> -Vincent
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>>> Thanks,
> > >>> >>>> Caty
> > >>> >>>>
> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol <
> > [email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >>>>
> > >>> >>>>> Hi Caty,
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > >>> [email protected]>
> > >>> >>>>> wrote:
> > >>> >>>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>> Hi,
> > >>> >>>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for our
> Notifications
> > >>> UI, see
> > >>> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
> > >>> >>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x
> > >>> >>>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think.
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the app?
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post would be
> > displayed
> > >>> and you
> > >>> >>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation or
> > modification?
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>>> Thanks
> > >>> >>>>> -Vincent
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>> >>>>>> Caty
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>>>
> > >>> >>>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
> > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > >> Committer on the XWiki.org project
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
> > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > > Committer on the XWiki.org project
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Mortagne
> >
>



-- 
Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected])
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project

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