On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > 2017-10-03 17:34 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com>: > >> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Thomas Mortagne < >> thomas.morta...@xwiki.com> >> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau >> > <guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: >> > > So your proposal focuses a lot more on the users instead of the apps >> > (like >> > > facebook for example). It's OK for me, but I think the type icon >> (create, >> > > edit, comment, etc...) is too small compared to the user face. >> > > >> > > Actually when I see these screenshot, my first impression is that the >> > user >> > > has been modified :) Would it be nice to have the type icon bigger than >> > the >> > > user face? To me, what happened is more important than who made it, but >> > > maybe it's only my feeling. >> > >> > Pretty much the same comments on my side. I find weird to focus that >> > much on users, I would have preferred images corresponding on the >> > change made. >> > >> >> Depends on what we want to focus on and also on what are user's >> expectations. >> If you look at the majority of notifcations in the wild, the user is the >> focus. >> People want to know who did what, on what page, when. >> > > But Facebook, for example, is a social network. It focuses on people by > nature. On XWiki, it is not that evident. In the case of a knowledge base, > you focus more on the content (the knowledge) than on the people. On > xwiki.org, I guess you prefer seeing what's change instead of who made some > changes... > > If we define XWiki as a collaboration tool, then you collaborate to create > something and so the focus is naturally more on that "something". > > Just my 2 cents :)
Some for me, if "the majority of notifcations in the wild" only refer to social networks and communication tools then it's not a good input for a wiki IMO. > > > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > Nice work anyway, as usual :) >> > > >> > > Guillaume >> > > >> > > 2017-10-03 9:50 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < >> > guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com >> > >>: >> > > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>: >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> > On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Another feedback/questions: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user profile? >> > >>> >> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least for page >> > events >> > >>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we have currently in >> > the AS) >> > >>> > >> > >>> > * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your example I see >> I >> > >>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both say “2 hours >> ago”. >> > >>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were done? >> > >>> >> > >>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type but not by >> > entity >> > >>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events displayed >> for >> > the >> > >>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> And you could also have different users grouped in the same composite >> > >> event. So when you display the details, it would be nice to show which >> > user >> > >> made each event, and I see you have removed this info. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> >> > >>> Thanks >> > >>> -Vincent >> > >>> >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Thanks >> > >>> > -Vincent >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Thanks >> > >>> >> -Vincent >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> >> > wrote: >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> > >>> vali...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent >> > >>> >>>> from >> > >>> >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Notification >> > >>> sImprovements9x#HEventTypes >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from top to bottom >> > and >> > >>> stopped at the overview :) >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one unique icon >> per >> > >>> combination of app type + event type. >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app type and >> one >> > >>> for the event type. >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the following events: >> > >>> >>> * When a blog post is published >> > >>> >>> * When a blog post is created >> > >>> >>> * When a blog post is removed >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent the 3 >> events. >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of the Blog >> app. >> > A >> > >>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed. >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder and harder >> > to >> > >>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, especially if >> there’s >> > only >> > >>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + event type. >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> WDYT? >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> Thanks >> > >>> >>> -Vincent >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>>> Thanks, >> > >>> >>>> Caty >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < >> > vinc...@massol.net> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >>>> >> > >>> >>>>> Hi Caty, >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> > >>> vali...@gmail.com> >> > >>> >>>>> wrote: >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Hi, >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for our >> Notifications >> > >>> UI, see >> > >>> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >> > >>> >>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think. >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the app? >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post would be >> > displayed >> > >>> and you >> > >>> >>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation or >> > modification? >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> Thanks >> > >>> >>>>> -Vincent >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> >> > >>> >>>>>> Thanks, >> > >>> >>>>>> Caty >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>>>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) >> > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >> > >> Committer on the XWiki.org project >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) >> > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >> > > Committer on the XWiki.org project >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thomas Mortagne >> > >> > > > > -- > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > Committer on the XWiki.org project -- Thomas Mortagne
