> On 30 Oct 2017, at 18:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've iterated how it would look inside the mail, see > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/NotificationsImprovements9xEmail#HProposal2
Thanks Caty. In your proposal I don’t see where you put the TOC for non-page events. > Still haven't found a solution for the avatar's group image, but the thing > is that when the user selects to receive the diffs in the mail, this user > grouping is confusing. Indeed, we cannot group diffs I think. The diff needs to be under each change, not under the whole grouped change. > For some events we display just the last change, not all the changes, or we > display the whole diff, so it's kind of hard to tell which user did what. > > A solution would be to display the entries separate, each with its own > diff. Not sure what is the best approach. Yep Thanks -Vincent > > Thanks, > Caty > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> On 30 Oct 2017, at 15:15, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> On 30 Oct 2017, at 12:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <[email protected] >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Caty, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> There’ s something I don’t understand. Sometimes you have 2 icons and >>>>>> sometimes only 1. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is only 1 icon if the action is done by the "Pages" app, coming >>>> from >>>>> XWiki. >>>>> I've considered that this is the main/default app, so we don't display >>>> it. >>>>> It's the default. >>>>> So if you have created, edited, delete, commented on a normal page, you >>>> get >>>>> just the event action. >>>>> If the page is special, coming from a particular application, then you >>>> have >>>>> an additional icon, marking the application. >>>> >>>> I find this highly confusing for my part :) >>>> >>>>> For me we always need 2 icons: >>>>>> * one to represent the application (e.g. Pages app, Blog app, etc) >>>>>> * one to represent the event (e.g. for the Paged app: Create, Modify, >>>>>> Delete, Comment. For the Blog app: Publish a blog post) >>>>>> >>>>>> So if we display the avatar this means 3 icons: one for the avatar, >> one >>>>>> for the app and one for the event. Maybe that’s a bit too much. >>>>>> >>>>>> Right now, on the proposals I see, I find it very confusing and I can >>>>>> never figure out which is the app and which is the event. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I would prefer the following: >>>>>> * On the left, avatar in big + app in smaller on top of it >>>>>> * On the right, icon for the event. Actually the icon could be in >>>> addition >>>>>> to the “text” (i.e. “edited by”, “published by”, “commented by”, >>>> “deleted >>>>>> by”, etc) or we could drop the icon for the event and only keep the >>>> text. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wouldn't drop the event icon since that's the most important piece of >>>>> information now. >>>> >>>> I would not drop it but it’s already contained in the text on the right >> so >>>> that’s duplication. >>>> >>>> I’d use the avatar + the app and leave the event icon on the right or >>>> simply drop it in favor of the text (either one). >>>> >>>>> The grouping is done by page and by event. >>>>> You want to know if someone deleted a new entry or just edited in a >> rapid >>>>> way, without the need to read the text. >>>> >>>> I’d prefer to see who did something and what they modified. That’s >> really >>>> how I use XWiki’s AS the most personally. >>>> >>>> If the text is not visual enough the event icon is ok too but I wouldn’t >>>> put it on the left. >>>> >>>> In any case, you need consistency and all entries need to look the same. >>>> We must not have special cases as it makes it very hard to understand. >>>> >>> >>> For me it was confusing seeing "Pages", since in XWiki everything is a >> page >>> and I don't have any application called Pages. I saw the addition of >>> "Pages" as redundant. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> In your variations I don’t see one where the app icon is on the left. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have put all the icons on the left in order to be easier to scan for >>>> them >>>>> in collapsed and expanded form. Having the icons on the right made the >>>>> layout very centered-heavy + you didn't had the extremities in order to >>>>> scan for them. >>>>> >>>>> So Guillaume and Clement like the event-focused view. >>>>> >>>>> I don't particularly like the big event icons. I find them more cold >> and >>>>> less personal. So I prefer the users-centered version. >>>> >>>> Same here for the same reason, but… (see below) >>>> >>>>> I like: >>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ >>>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes/userCentered_smallAvatars_reverse.png >>>> >>>> I don’t like the generic group image, it breaks the nice UI with >> avatars. >>>> We could maybe resize the avatars and display up to 4 and if beyond then >>>> display some continuations symbol. >>>> >>> >>> Not really sure how to display 4 avatars + in a nice way, while still >> being >>> the main focus. >> >> There’s another problem too actually. Not all events are related to >> people. For example the “A new version of XWiki is available” event would >> not have an avatar. However we could decide to use an “X” icon, >> representing the xwiki.org entity/avatar. >> >> What I wouldn’t like is some generic image such as a bland group image. I >> find that this breaks the concept of showing avatars. >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >>> >>>>> Now I haven't created versions for all the combinations, but we should >>>>> decide if: >>>>> - we want user focused vs. event focused layout >>>>> - expanded version should have users or events on the left; >>>>> - the summary should contain avatars or not for the users (important >> when >>>>> there is a single user that did the event); >>>>> - if / when we combine the users (when we have more than 2/3 users; >>>> always; >>>>> >>>>> I am lacking some information in order to get some statistical >> decisions. >>>>> For example, in practice: >>>>> - we have more individual events or more events done by multiple >> people? >>>>> - how common is to group also events? the example with blog published >>>> that >>>>> also has the create. Do we really need to display them? Also when >>>> creating >>>>> an user profile we launch a multitude of edit events, should all those >> be >>>>> displayed? >>>>> >>>>> Regarding the user vs. event focused layout: it's just in the layout >> and >>>>> what we display on the first position, since I've kept the current >>>>> page/event grouping that is currently implemented. The decision depends >>>> on >>>>> how everyone is using the wiki: are they more interested in activity >>>> being >>>>> done on the wiki or who actually did that activity? >>>> >>>> Both are needed and it depends on the usage I guess. My feeling is that >>>> humans are good at relationships in a group and a picture speaks more >> than >>>> a generic icon for an app. You know who you work with, you know people >> you >>>> like, you know who you consider is a stranger, etc and you’ll want to >> check >>>> the diff and dive further based on that. The fact that the avatar is >> shown >>>> prominently will help that. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>>> I like to see who did what, but if the Notifications implementation >> will >>>>> always group users and we will get the Group icon, than this might not >> be >>>>> very nice. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Caty >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2017, at 17:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So these are some more iterations for the notifications layout >>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've played with User centered vs. Event centered and variants for >>>>>>> displaying the avatars, user names and event names. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me know what version you prefer. Also you can fork the prototypes >>>> if >>>>>>> you want to make some small changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol <[email protected] >>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 11:24, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2017-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any news on this? I'd like to implement this quickly because 9.10 >>>> is >>>>>>>>>> coming >>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This the current status: >>>>>>>>>> * Caty proposed some improved layout for displaying notifications >>>>>>>>>> * I commented about the need to display event + type, and about >> the >>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>> to have a link to see the diff. I also mentioned that we need to >>>> work >>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>> the mail template display >>>>>>>>>> * Caty replied and updated her proposal to take into account those >>>>>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>>>>> * I kind of like Caty’s proposal focused on the user. We want to >>>> favor >>>>>>>>>> contributions and I think it helps. It also makes the UI more >>>>>> appealing >>>>>>>>>> visually. >>>>>>>>>> * You mentioned that you’d prefer a proposal more focused on the >>>> event >>>>>>>>>> rather than the user >>>>>>>>>> * Thomas agrees with you >>>>>>>>>> * Edy mentioned some extra points >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have also mentioned that the diff we propose is too technical for >>>>>> many >>>>>>>>> users. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes and we have 4 solutions: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Solution 1: make it simpler to understand for everyone >>>>>>>> * Solution 2: have a wiki admin UI level option to select whether to >>>>>>>> include diff or not in the default template + user-level profile UI >>>>>> option >>>>>>>> (ie. per user) >>>>>>>> * Solution 3: have a singe button in the mail, that, when clicked, >>>>>>>> displays the diff (which is hidden by default) >>>>>>>> * Solution 4: implement 2 mail templates (one for simple users and >> one >>>>>> for >>>>>>>> advanced users) and let the users choose in their profile which one >>>> they >>>>>>>> want to receive + have a wiki admin UI level option to decide which >> is >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> default when not overridden by the user. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I guess we need to decide about whether we show the avatar as >> in >>>>>>>> Caty’s >>>>>>>>>> proposal or not, right? Is that what you’re asking about >> Guillaume? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On my side, I don’t see the issue in displaying the user avatar >>>> large >>>>>> vs >>>>>>>>>> small. The events are still ordered by page events. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-23 13:19 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Note that you have a mail template for the notifications too. >> It's >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/ >>>>>>>>>>>> 83b76ed4c26954aa2755bbdce23b32c41725ac06/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-notifications/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>>>>> notifications-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/Notifications/ >>>>>>>>>>>> MailTemplate.xml#L23 but it's not documented yet. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This mail template allows you to customize the header and the >>>> footer >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> the email, but not the actual content. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To be precise, each *event type* can have its own template or >>>>>> failback >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> the default one (https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/ >>>>>>>>>>>> acdf68f4c0d20a9b44ea48eec4df808e22c54548/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/ >>>>>>>>>>>> notification/email/default.html.vm) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So it's a template *per event type* and it's not linked to any >>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>> choice. But we could add some options in the default template >> for >>>>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-17 16:23 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have feedback about the fact the diff is way too technical >> for >>>>>>>>>> users. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Example: "What does it means???" >> https://img15.hostingpics.net/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pics/670307example1.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So we could hide this in a "technical details" link. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s one option but there’s another which is to provide the >>>>>> ability >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which mail template to use in the Admin and provide >>>> several >>>>>>>>>>>>> templates for different needs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For example for the xwiki.org watchlist we absolutely need to >> be >>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> see the diffs without clicking a “technical details” link for >>>> each >>>>>>>>>>>>> notification. It could be ok if there’s a single “technical >>>>>> details” >>>>>>>>>> link >>>>>>>>>>>>> for ALL notifications that shows all diffs at once. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "details" link could be replaced by a "more" link, with a >>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplified diff (the complete diff would go the the technical >>>>>>>> details >>>>>>>>>>>>> view). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the body of the event, in addition with the title of the >>>>>>>> document, >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>>> could add some extracts of the diff. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Example taken on gmail: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope it helps, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <[email protected] >>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice. Does it work in all mail clients that support >> HTML? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like an option to show the details for all events as >>>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too painful to have to open all one by one (for the use case >>>> when >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to check everything). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same as Guillaume: not all events are page-related events. So >>>> we >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle those too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it looks very nice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, you said the events are displayed like in the >>>>>> notifications, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the notifications they are ordered by dates, not by pages. >>>> Does >>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal imply to change the ordering? What about events >> that >>>> do >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern any page (like: "a new wiki has been created" or "a >>>> new >>>>>>>>>> XWiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is available")? We don't have such events for now >> but >>>> we >>>>>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some soon. We could display them last for example. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice CSS expand! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the Notifications mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've continued with the 'user' avatar focused proposal, >> since >>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently focused on the email template. If we drop the >> user >>>>>>>> avatar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we group multiple users) then we can have the event/app >> icon >>>>>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avatar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I want to have feedback on is the email layout, >>>>>>>> functionality >>>>>>>>>>>>> (tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation, details expanding) and styling. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with the Prototype >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to translate to the mail template, there are >> still >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be tested (like translating the CSS selectors into >> inline, >>>>>>>>>> decide >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email clients we support, etc.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol < >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol < >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another feedback/questions: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the >> user >>>>>>>>>> profile? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at >> least >>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we have >>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your >>>>>>>> example I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both say >>>> “2 >>>>>>>>>> hours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago”. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events >> were >>>>>>>> done? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type >>>> but >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 >> events >>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you could also have different users grouped in the >>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>> composite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event. So when you display the details, it would be nice >>>> to >>>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made each event, and I see you have removed this info. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus of this proposal is on user, compared to the >> old >>>>>> one, >>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the app/doc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to what we have on Facebool. So it didn't made >> sense >>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a page has been edited by vmassol, and that the details >>>>>>>> showcase >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple user actually did the edit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Facebook, you have it actually: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On XWiki, we have the following (already implemented): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) >> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from >>>> top >>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped at the overview :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one >>>>>> unique >>>>>>>>>> icon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of app type + event type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the >> app >>>>>> type >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the event type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the >>>> following >>>>>>>>>>>>> events: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is published >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is created >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to >> represent >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be >> harder >>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, >>>> especially >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + >> event >>>>>>>> type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Caty, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru >> (Valica) >>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for >> our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notifications >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI, see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the >>>>>> app? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post >>>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page >> creation >>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modification? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >> >>
