2017-10-30 18:59 GMT+01:00 Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>: > > > On 30 Oct 2017, at 18:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I've iterated how it would look inside the mail, see > > http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > NotificationsImprovements9xEmail#HProposal2 > > Thanks Caty. In your proposal I don’t see where you put the TOC for > non-page events. > > > Still haven't found a solution for the avatar's group image, but the > thing > > is that when the user selects to receive the diffs in the mail, this user > > grouping is confusing. > > Indeed, we cannot group diffs I think. The diff needs to be under each > change, not under the whole grouped change. >
This is not the case in the watchlist. In the watchlist, you see the diff for the whole changes on each listed page. I don't think you want to have each individual diff when you look on what's changed in the wiki. > > > For some events we display just the last change, not all the changes, or > we > > display the whole diff, so it's kind of hard to tell which user did what. > > > > A solution would be to display the entries separate, each with its own > > diff. Not sure what is the best approach. > > Yep > > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > Thanks, > > Caty > > > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > wrote: > > > >> > >>> On 30 Oct 2017, at 15:15, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <vali...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 30 Oct 2017, at 12:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > vali...@gmail.com > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Caty, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There’ s something I don’t understand. Sometimes you have 2 icons > and > >>>>>> sometimes only 1. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> There is only 1 icon if the action is done by the "Pages" app, coming > >>>> from > >>>>> XWiki. > >>>>> I've considered that this is the main/default app, so we don't > display > >>>> it. > >>>>> It's the default. > >>>>> So if you have created, edited, delete, commented on a normal page, > you > >>>> get > >>>>> just the event action. > >>>>> If the page is special, coming from a particular application, then > you > >>>> have > >>>>> an additional icon, marking the application. > >>>> > >>>> I find this highly confusing for my part :) > >>>> > >>>>> For me we always need 2 icons: > >>>>>> * one to represent the application (e.g. Pages app, Blog app, etc) > >>>>>> * one to represent the event (e.g. for the Paged app: Create, > Modify, > >>>>>> Delete, Comment. For the Blog app: Publish a blog post) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So if we display the avatar this means 3 icons: one for the avatar, > >> one > >>>>>> for the app and one for the event. Maybe that’s a bit too much. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Right now, on the proposals I see, I find it very confusing and I > can > >>>>>> never figure out which is the app and which is the event. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think I would prefer the following: > >>>>>> * On the left, avatar in big + app in smaller on top of it > >>>>>> * On the right, icon for the event. Actually the icon could be in > >>>> addition > >>>>>> to the “text” (i.e. “edited by”, “published by”, “commented by”, > >>>> “deleted > >>>>>> by”, etc) or we could drop the icon for the event and only keep the > >>>> text. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I wouldn't drop the event icon since that's the most important piece > of > >>>>> information now. > >>>> > >>>> I would not drop it but it’s already contained in the text on the > right > >> so > >>>> that’s duplication. > >>>> > >>>> I’d use the avatar + the app and leave the event icon on the right or > >>>> simply drop it in favor of the text (either one). > >>>> > >>>>> The grouping is done by page and by event. > >>>>> You want to know if someone deleted a new entry or just edited in a > >> rapid > >>>>> way, without the need to read the text. > >>>> > >>>> I’d prefer to see who did something and what they modified. That’s > >> really > >>>> how I use XWiki’s AS the most personally. > >>>> > >>>> If the text is not visual enough the event icon is ok too but I > wouldn’t > >>>> put it on the left. > >>>> > >>>> In any case, you need consistency and all entries need to look the > same. > >>>> We must not have special cases as it makes it very hard to understand. > >>>> > >>> > >>> For me it was confusing seeing "Pages", since in XWiki everything is a > >> page > >>> and I don't have any application called Pages. I saw the addition of > >>> "Pages" as redundant. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> In your variations I don’t see one where the app icon is on the > left. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I have put all the icons on the left in order to be easier to scan > for > >>>> them > >>>>> in collapsed and expanded form. Having the icons on the right made > the > >>>>> layout very centered-heavy + you didn't had the extremities in order > to > >>>>> scan for them. > >>>>> > >>>>> So Guillaume and Clement like the event-focused view. > >>>>> > >>>>> I don't particularly like the big event icons. I find them more cold > >> and > >>>>> less personal. So I prefer the users-centered version. > >>>> > >>>> Same here for the same reason, but… (see below) > >>>> > >>>>> I like: > >>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ > >>>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes/userCentered_smallAvatars_ > reverse.png > >>>> > >>>> I don’t like the generic group image, it breaks the nice UI with > >> avatars. > >>>> We could maybe resize the avatars and display up to 4 and if beyond > then > >>>> display some continuations symbol. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Not really sure how to display 4 avatars + in a nice way, while still > >> being > >>> the main focus. > >> > >> There’s another problem too actually. Not all events are related to > >> people. For example the “A new version of XWiki is available” event > would > >> not have an avatar. However we could decide to use an “X” icon, > >> representing the xwiki.org entity/avatar. > >> > >> What I wouldn’t like is some generic image such as a bland group image. > I > >> find that this breaks the concept of showing avatars. > >> > >> Thanks > >> -Vincent > >> > >>> > >>>>> Now I haven't created versions for all the combinations, but we > should > >>>>> decide if: > >>>>> - we want user focused vs. event focused layout > >>>>> - expanded version should have users or events on the left; > >>>>> - the summary should contain avatars or not for the users (important > >> when > >>>>> there is a single user that did the event); > >>>>> - if / when we combine the users (when we have more than 2/3 users; > >>>> always; > >>>>> > >>>>> I am lacking some information in order to get some statistical > >> decisions. > >>>>> For example, in practice: > >>>>> - we have more individual events or more events done by multiple > >> people? > >>>>> - how common is to group also events? the example with blog published > >>>> that > >>>>> also has the create. Do we really need to display them? Also when > >>>> creating > >>>>> an user profile we launch a multitude of edit events, should all > those > >> be > >>>>> displayed? > >>>>> > >>>>> Regarding the user vs. event focused layout: it's just in the layout > >> and > >>>>> what we display on the first position, since I've kept the current > >>>>> page/event grouping that is currently implemented. The decision > depends > >>>> on > >>>>> how everyone is using the wiki: are they more interested in activity > >>>> being > >>>>> done on the wiki or who actually did that activity? > >>>> > >>>> Both are needed and it depends on the usage I guess. My feeling is > that > >>>> humans are good at relationships in a group and a picture speaks more > >> than > >>>> a generic icon for an app. You know who you work with, you know people > >> you > >>>> like, you know who you consider is a stranger, etc and you’ll want to > >> check > >>>> the diff and dive further based on that. The fact that the avatar is > >> shown > >>>> prominently will help that. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> -Vincent > >>>> > >>>>> I like to see who did what, but if the Notifications implementation > >> will > >>>>> always group users and we will get the Group icon, than this might > not > >> be > >>>>> very nice. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Caty > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 27 Oct 2017, at 17:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >> vali...@gmail.com > >>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So these are some more iterations for the notifications layout > >>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > >>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've played with User centered vs. Event centered and variants for > >>>>>>> displaying the avatars, user names and event names. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Let me know what version you prefer. Also you can fork the > prototypes > >>>> if > >>>>>>> you want to make some small changes. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Caty > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol < > vinc...@massol.net > >>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 11:24, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2017-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net>: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Any news on this? I'd like to implement this quickly because > 9.10 > >>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> coming > >>>>>>>>>>> :) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> This the current status: > >>>>>>>>>> * Caty proposed some improved layout for displaying > notifications > >>>>>>>>>> * I commented about the need to display event + type, and about > >> the > >>>>>> need > >>>>>>>>>> to have a link to see the diff. I also mentioned that we need to > >>>> work > >>>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>> the mail template display > >>>>>>>>>> * Caty replied and updated her proposal to take into account > those > >>>>>>>>>> comments. > >>>>>>>>>> * I kind of like Caty’s proposal focused on the user. We want to > >>>> favor > >>>>>>>>>> contributions and I think it helps. It also makes the UI more > >>>>>> appealing > >>>>>>>>>> visually. > >>>>>>>>>> * You mentioned that you’d prefer a proposal more focused on the > >>>> event > >>>>>>>>>> rather than the user > >>>>>>>>>> * Thomas agrees with you > >>>>>>>>>> * Edy mentioned some extra points > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have also mentioned that the diff we propose is too technical > for > >>>>>> many > >>>>>>>>> users. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes and we have 4 solutions: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Solution 1: make it simpler to understand for everyone > >>>>>>>> * Solution 2: have a wiki admin UI level option to select whether > to > >>>>>>>> include diff or not in the default template + user-level profile > UI > >>>>>> option > >>>>>>>> (ie. per user) > >>>>>>>> * Solution 3: have a singe button in the mail, that, when clicked, > >>>>>>>> displays the diff (which is hidden by default) > >>>>>>>> * Solution 4: implement 2 mail templates (one for simple users and > >> one > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>> advanced users) and let the users choose in their profile which > one > >>>> they > >>>>>>>> want to receive + have a wiki admin UI level option to decide > which > >> is > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> default when not overridden by the user. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So I guess we need to decide about whether we show the avatar as > >> in > >>>>>>>> Caty’s > >>>>>>>>>> proposal or not, right? Is that what you’re asking about > >> Guillaume? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On my side, I don’t see the issue in displaying the user avatar > >>>> large > >>>>>> vs > >>>>>>>>>> small. The events are still ordered by page events. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-23 13:19 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com>: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Note that you have a mail template for the notifications too. > >> It's > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> 83b76ed4c26954aa2755bbdce23b32c41725ac06/xwiki-platform- > >>>>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-notifications/xwiki-platform- > >>>>>>>>>>>> notifications-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/Notifications/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> MailTemplate.xml#L23 but it's not documented yet. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> This mail template allows you to customize the header and the > >>>> footer > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>> the email, but not the actual content. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> To be precise, each *event type* can have its own template or > >>>>>> failback > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> the default one (https://github.com/xwiki/ > xwiki-platform/blob/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> acdf68f4c0d20a9b44ea48eec4df808e22c54548/xwiki-platform- > >>>>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/ > >>>>>>>>>>>> notification/email/default.html.vm) > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So it's a template *per event type* and it's not linked to any > >>>> user > >>>>>>>>>>>> choice. But we could add some options in the default template > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> example. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-17 16:23 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vinc...@massol.net > >: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have feedback about the fact the diff is way too technical > >> for > >>>>>>>>>> users. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Example: "What does it means???" > >> https://img15.hostingpics.net/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pics/670307example1.png > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So we could hide this in a "technical details" link. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s one option but there’s another which is to provide the > >>>>>> ability > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> choose which mail template to use in the Admin and provide > >>>> several > >>>>>>>>>>>>> templates for different needs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> For example for the xwiki.org watchlist we absolutely need > to > >> be > >>>>>>>> able > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> see the diffs without clicking a “technical details” link for > >>>> each > >>>>>>>>>>>>> notification. It could be ok if there’s a single “technical > >>>>>> details” > >>>>>>>>>> link > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for ALL notifications that shows all diffs at once. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The "details" link could be replaced by a "more" link, with > a > >>>> very > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> simplified diff (the complete diff would go the the > technical > >>>>>>>> details > >>>>>>>>>>>>> view). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the body of the event, in addition with the title of the > >>>>>>>> document, > >>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> could add some extracts of the diff. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Example taken on gmail: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope it helps, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol < > vinc...@massol.net > >>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice. Does it work in all mail clients that support > >> HTML? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like an option to show the details for all events as > >>>>>> otherwise > >>>>>>>>>> it's > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too painful to have to open all one by one (for the use > case > >>>> when > >>>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>>>>>> want > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to check everything). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same as Guillaume: not all events are page-related events. > So > >>>> we > >>>>>>>> need > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle those too. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it looks very nice. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, you said the events are displayed like in the > >>>>>> notifications, > >>>>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the notifications they are ordered by dates, not by pages. > >>>> Does > >>>>>>>> your > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal imply to change the ordering? What about events > >> that > >>>> do > >>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern any page (like: "a new wiki has been created" or > "a > >>>> new > >>>>>>>>>> XWiki > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is available")? We don't have such events for now > >> but > >>>> we > >>>>>>>>>> plan > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some soon. We could display them last for example. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice CSS expand! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >>>>>>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the Notifications mail: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've continued with the 'user' avatar focused proposal, > >> since > >>>>>>>> I've > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently focused on the email template. If we drop the > >> user > >>>>>>>> avatar > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (since > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we group multiple users) then we can have the event/app > >> icon > >>>>>>>>>> instead > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avatar. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I want to have feedback on is the email layout, > >>>>>>>> functionality > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (tree > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation, details expanding) and styling. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with the Prototype > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to translate to the mail template, there are > >> still > >>>>>>>> some > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be tested (like translating the CSS selectors into > >> inline, > >>>>>>>>>> decide > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email clients we support, etc.) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol < > >>>>>> vinc...@massol.net > >>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol < > >>>>>> vinc...@massol.net > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol < > >>>>>>>> vinc...@massol.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another feedback/questions: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the > >> user > >>>>>>>>>> profile? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at > >> least > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>> page > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we > have > >>>>>>>>>> currently > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your > >>>>>>>> example I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both > say > >>>> “2 > >>>>>>>>>> hours > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago”. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events > >> were > >>>>>>>> done? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that events are grouped by > app+type > >>>> but > >>>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 > >> events > >>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you could also have different users grouped in the > >>>> same > >>>>>>>>>>>>> composite > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event. So when you display the details, it would be > nice > >>>> to > >>>>>>>> show > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made each event, and I see you have removed this info. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus of this proposal is on user, compared to the > >> old > >>>>>> one, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> when > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the app/doc. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to what we have on Facebool. So it didn't made > >> sense > >>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>>>>> say > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a page has been edited by vmassol, and that the details > >>>>>>>> showcase > >>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple user actually did the edit. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Facebook, you have it actually: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On XWiki, we have the following (already implemented): > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol < > >>>>>>>> vinc...@massol.net > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru > (Valica) > >> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading > from > >>>> top > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped at the overview :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one > >>>>>> unique > >>>>>>>>>> icon > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of app type + event type. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the > >> app > >>>>>> type > >>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the event type. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the > >>>> following > >>>>>>>>>>>>> events: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is published > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is created > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is removed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to > >> represent > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> 3 > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative > of > >>>> the > >>>>>>>>>> Blog > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be > >> harder > >>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, > >>>> especially > >>>>>>>> if > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there’s > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + > >> event > >>>>>>>> type. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vinc...@massol.net> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Caty, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru > >> (Valica) > >>>> < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vali...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for > >> our > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notifications > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI, see > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/ > bin/view/Proposal/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention > the > >>>>>> app? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post > >>>> would > >>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page > >> creation > >>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modification? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >> > >> > > -- Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS Committer on the XWiki.org project
