Can't this argument go offline now?
-- Karim Nassar
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Claus [UNKNOWN] Sørensen - Chairman of KLID wrote:
> Fra: Hans Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > At 22:21 01.05.01 +0200, Claus Sørensen - ProjectHouse wrote:
> > >From: Hans Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> One of the main engines in Open Source/Free
> > >> >> Softeware projects is release often so you don't
> > >> >> have these huge gaps between releases.
> > >> >>
> > >> Wow, what a deep insight. I've always thought the main engine
> > >> in Free Software projects are motivated developers. Why
> > >> should one do something for free if he could as well earn
> > >> money with it ?
> > >
> > >I said "one of..."
> > >
> > And I said *THE* ...
>
> For _some_ developers seeing the benefit from their
> work in releases is a motivating factor. An encourage
> them to develop more because they can see users
> using it.
>
> Actually I am one of those users and I like version 0.86
> (you have all done a great job) but I wanted more so
> I looked for a new version and found none but saw that
> many of the features I would like was already there - in
> the CVS-tree which I downloaded but couldn't compile
> using the guidelines.
>
> I thought that I was not the only one and asked the list
> for road map for the next release without any answers.
>
> Then I suggest some things to be done to reach the next
> release in a short time.
>
> > IMO you can't tell, what's fun for me ...
>
> Of course not.
>
> > >I know my limitations - and I am not a very skilled
> > >programmer (I can read some C and shell scripts),
> > >so I'm trying to guide you so the time for 0.87 will
> > ^^^^^^^^
> > >not be too far away.
>
> > Thanks, that's defenetly *not* required, at least for me.
> > If you want to tell other people what they should do, I
> > suggest: Pay them or improve your authority otherwise.
>
> "Guide" was not the right word more "making
> suggestions".
>
> So it is not about what they should do but
> could do.
>
> >And then I hope for baby steps in the future. It is easier
> >to make small changes and bugfixes, and then release
> >again than mayor steps.
> >
> > >Maybe Dia should use two tracks like Linux:
> > >- developer track where all the new features are tested
> > >- stable track where all the stable features
> >
> > Maybe you should first read the mailing list archives before
> > repeating discussions ...
>
> Why didn't you tell the same to Fernando Lozano?
>
> Do I really have to read more than 2400 postings
> before I can say anything on this list?
>
> Why don't you point me to the discussion (give me
> the subject) because I couldn't find any discussion
> concerning two tracks.
>
> There is no FAQ for the list so I can see what is
> already been asked about and answered.
>
> Actually the short description for the list say:
> "If you want to help out with Dia or discuss
> it's development"
>
> > >I'm not (only) complaining - I'm trying to help.
> > >
> > Thanks, but no thanks. If you want to help: report bugs,
> > write documentation, answers FAQs on the mailing list,
> > but IMO never ever try to lead free (as in free bear, which
> > you drink and someone else has to pay:) source developers.
>
>
> I am not trying to leading at all - I just make some
> suggestions.
>
> But the maintainer have some level of leader
> authority. And if you don't like his leadership
> you can find another project, find another
> leader, drop free developing or fork.
>
> > >> >Then reason we aren't seeing a release is that our maintainer, James
> > >> >Henstridge, seems to have slunk away somewhere.
> > >> >
> > >> goto start_of_mail;
> > >
> > >I read is as you are the new maintainer -
> > >or am I wrong.
> >
> > You are, but it isn't surprising, is it?
>
> Ok - then I don't understand what you "answer" on
> why James is slunk away is.
>
> > I am maintainer of the win32 port of Dia and actually
> > I'm the coder as well :)
>
> Great - keep up the good work - I have some of
> my friend trying it out and they are quite happy
> about it.
>
> The most enjoyable greetings
>
> Claus Sorensen K L I D
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