On Saturday, 7 December 2013 at 15:42:54 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 12/6/13 11:34 PM, Maxim Fomin wrote:
And again, notice that you are speaking about 'hypothetical
advantages'
(language advantages) which implies two things:
1) current efficiency is worse when comparing with some
benchmark
2) despite many years of development, community failed to
realize these
advantages.
This makes me think that probably there is another reason of
why code is
less efficient, for example fundamental characteristics of the
language
make him hard to be quick. This is not bad per se, but saying
that
language code can be faster than C, taking into account some
many
problems with D, looks like advertisement, rather then
technical
comparison.
That is not advertisement, and your tenor is dissonant in this
forum.
This is not the first time you are commenting my 'tenor' which is
an unusual thing. Of course, it is dissosant in this 'forum', if
you mean by forum constant advertisement which does not express
full information about the subject (like reddit link bombing).
When speaking about D newsgroups in general, I found myself
pretty neutral.
This community, as pretty much any other languages', is looking
for strategic advantages compared to other languages, and how
to exploit them. It is perfectly natural to look for places
where D semantics may lead to better code and exploit those at
their best.
I am happy with looking at strategic advantages, but strategic
advantages are not excuse for current disadvantages. Perhaps some
major bugs should be fixed before promoting the language?
D code is easy to make fast. This has been shown numerous times
in various contexts. There are also convenience features that
are not aimed at performance, bugs, and insufficiencies.
Enumerating them in an attempt to argue that D code is not or
cannot be faster than C is missing the point.
Andrei
I remember regex implementation as example of superior
performance. I don't remember any other libraries, projects
(perhaps vide.d in some activities). Meanwhile, many people
regular complain on some problems. I do remember only one thread
(it was started by Jonathan) which was devoted to single purpose
of describing how D language is usefull and good to solve
problems.
