On 3/13/14, 10:21 AM, Paolo Invernizzi wrote:
On Thursday, 13 March 2014 at 16:41:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 3/13/14, 9:23 AM, Daniel Murphy wrote:
This thread has had people from several 'industry' D users stating that
they do not have a problem with well planned breaking changes, and I'm
not sure why you feel differently about this.
I have seen those messages as well. I have argued at length why I feel
differently about this, including how I see the numbers working in
this forum. As far as I can tell you are not convinced, so repeating
those arguments would not help.
I think that this it's a bit unfair.
Just to be clear, we have committed a lot of money and effort in the D
programming language, "smelling" years ago that it could be a
competitive advantage over other choices.
I think that holds regardless of the decision in this particular matter.
Told that, I'm following the forum as this is by far the best way to
reinforce of undermine my past decision (and sleep well at night!)
That why I think that, IMHO, companies that adopted D "seriously" are
present here, and are lurking.
I don't think so. This isn't the case for my employer, and hasn't been
the case historically for a lot of the companies using other languages.
I have plenty of experience with forum dynamics to draw from.
Just to give a perspective, we are not so big like Sociomantic but we
are making some $M, so for us the decision was not a joke.
Again, it's unlikely the decision would have been in other way affected
by a minor language design detail.
The matter is you seem convinced final would improve your use of D, and
therefore are unhappy with the decision. For those who aren't, we'd seem
flaky by breaking their code.
And to be honest what it's really scaring it's not the frequency of the
"planned improvement" of the language, but that a feeling turned "a
solid piece of evidence" [1] into smoke. Today is virtual, tomorrow how
knows?
That's my feedback for the community, and for the two leaders.
- Paolo
[1]
http://forum.dlang.org/thread/yzsqwejxqlnzryhrk...@forum.dlang.org?page=23#post-koo65g:241nqs:242:40digitalmars.com
Now I think you're being unfair. Yes, it was a good piece of evidence.
And yes, it turned out to be not enough. It's that simple and that
visible. What, are Walter and me doing cover-up machinations now???
There must be a way to convey that a decision has been made. It is
understood it won't please everybody, just like going the other way
won't please everybody. Please let me know what that way is.
Thanks,
Andrei
