On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d < digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote:
> PyD is not a recent project. Nor is LuaD. Or bachmeier's work on R > integration. > I've learned about the last one only from this thread, and the first two are listed only on http://wiki.dlang.org/Scripting_Libraries, thus I draw the conclusion that's how they are used most often. > PyD is only barely alive >> > Really? You have submitted pull requests and nobody has looked at them ? > Seemed alive enough to me when I looked a few months back. It's normal > activity diminishes as a project reaches maturity. You are right in that it's well maintained. I say 'barely' because for such kind of project I'd expect to see at least one user per each platform (Linux/OS X/Win), and I couldn't find that many. I ran a global search 'pyd std.range' on Github to get an idea of usage, and the outcome was rather disappointing for a mature project. I'm not a Win user so I can't help on this one. > What a great opportunity to give something back! Why not sketch out a > vision for what this should look like, as John has done with dlangscience. I'm afraid vision is also not going to help a lot, but here you go: - LDC starts to provide libphobos2.a compiled with -fPIC - PyD: 1) Links druntime dynamically and Phobos statically (with -Bsymbolic to avoid symbol clashes between different Phobos versions) 2) Prepares a tiny libdruntime.so wrapper as a Python package, such that 'import druntime' in Python code initializes D runtime; all PyD packages start to use this import. 3) Someone should help to sort out multithreading-related gotchas, if any crop up - D Language Foundation registers an official account on PyPI and publishes the aforementioned package - Finally, someone makes a useful PyD-based extension, publishes it, makes sure his colleagues can use it with a single `pip install`, and puts a link to reddit/hackernews > Yes it has a unique advantage. But it isn't realistic to expect others to > do the work for you at this stage in the development of the ecosystem... Well, it's not for me, I'm mostly out already, back to C++14/Python, after careful weighing of offerings w.r.t. infrastructure/pain of coding. The ideal people for these kind of tasks are students, imho. I've read on this forum about some magic place where D is being taught at a university, that's where I'd try to get an influx from.
