On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 at 15:55:14 UTC, Wulfklaue wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 July 2017 at 06:40:22 UTC, Bienlein wrote:
D is the most feature rich language I know of. Maybe only
Scala comes close, but Scala can be at times an unreadable
mess as the designers of the language valued mixing functional
and OO higher than readability. D, on the contrary, has a very
clean design througout.
But you are right. D is missing some unique selling point like
ease of concurrency using Communicating Sequential Processes
in Go or memory safety in Rust without a GC. This is because D
does not have a business model, but seems to be seen as a
playground for building the greatest language ever. I fear
this will not change. Topics of people arguing that D needs a
business case pop up regularly here and are every time mostly
or also completely ignored. It does not look like this will
change, because the main drivers of the language never drop a
comment in those discussions.
I noticed the issues for me is going beyond just the language.
Its also productivity.
Not going to hide that i switched to Pascal. There are some
features that are needed in my case, where pascal has been
kicking D's behind in my personal opinion.
One of those has been frankly community support. Lets say there
is a issue in D and one posts about it here. If your lucky, in
a few hours there is a response. Then the response can be
categorized as:
* Friendly / Useful / Solve issue
* Useless off-topic responds that does not answer the question
but focuses on a complaint and ignores the issue.
* Semi-aggressive answer that indeed solves the issue but one
feels "intimidated"
I have for a long time have a love / hate relationship with D.
And the negative feels have always stemmed from the strange
community.
Its not just the Pascal community where i feel better, even in
the Rust / Go community people feel like the have more patience
or are less judgmental.
I think I understand what you mean. You have to take into account
that D is a pure spare time effort. As such it is an incredible
language. The Go dev team has at least 5 people working on it
full time and have a big big company behind it. Now compare D to
Go and you can see how enormous the achievements of the D people
are given their endowment situation to the one of the Go team.
To me D is a great language and tool to create things in my spare
time. It is also a great toll for university people that work on
some research stuff. Developing commercial things with D is a
different thing. You can still do this, but then you need to be
aware that D cannot have the same rigour as some tool with a big
company or a big industry behind it.
