On 02/02/2010 23:05, Jeff Nowakowski wrote:
BCS wrote:

Group = citizens of china
controller = government of china

for the case in question (this NG)

group = people posting on NG
controller = people in NG wanting someone banned.

I see a difference

The government of China are Chinese people. I see no difference. Once
you create a "controller" class in the newsgroup, they become the
government.

As others tried to explain regrading china - that's not the same thing.
regarding this newsgroup and online communities in general - have you ever heard of the debian project? nothing prevents us from establishing similar mechanisms such that all active and registered posters in this group will have a say regarding policies and policing of those policies. Since this NG is on Walter's servers and belongs to him, nothing prevents doing the above on different community servers if Walter disagrees with this.

I'm not saying we should do this, btw. I'm perfectly fine with the current scheme of things where I need to filter superdan in my own news-reader instead of having him banned from the NG. other people might find his posts amusing and they have the right to read them.

IMO, we should have a registration system for regular people, not for censoring purposes but for keeping track. there are many posts by different people that call themselves with the same name and it seems confusing and unproductive to me. people don't have to register with their real names if they don't want to but at least I could tell the difference between john and john1 when I'm answering to john. Also, regular folks can ensure by registering that no-one else can reply to posts in their names.

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