I never counted the JA cards in Hong Kong, I simply weighed them by the pound.
Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each . QSL LOTW-buro- direct As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you use that - also pls upload to LOTW or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk ----- Original Message ----- From: "KV9U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] US Hams Codeless Feb 23 > Well you were there, and I sure was not. I am disappointed to hear of > Dick Baldwin's actions on this. You always want to believe people in > such levels of power are scrupulously ethical. I realize that he did not > absolutely have to follow what the ARRL may or may not have wanted, but > you rather expect your delegate to represent the democratic process. > > For some reason I had thought the Japanese rigs were only allowed 10 > watts output, but of course even then they would be double what most of > us consider normal QRP power levels. On the higher bands they could be > effective in causing quite a bit of QRM although I never had any here in > the midwestern part of the U.S. I am sure it was a lot different in > other places. > > One other thing. The ARRL supported at least keeping the 5 wpm CW test > for the Extra Class and I don't remember them ever dropping that > recommendation to the FCC. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > Danny Douglas wrote: > > >Yes Rick, I am positive that the ARRL did exactly that. They published the > >results, and made written statements in QST that they would fight for a > >continuation of the standing rules at the IARU/ITU level, then turned right > >around an voted with the rest of them against it. They then said they > >would support its continued testing with the FCC, and then turned around and > >did not do so, instead supporting the FCC's stated intention to delete the > >requirement. I had at least two of them (ARRL OFFICIALS) tell me > >face-to-face they would support the majorities wishes. Now they are > >bragging about all the new "opportunities". Its come down to a business > >decision, and they broke ranks, in order to sell more books, and hopefully > >gain more dues, etc. I have read emails and missives from dozens of people > >who are quitting over this. The ARRL management has never listened real > >well to their membership, but this is the straw breaking the camels back, > >for many. > > > >Go ahead and say 'JAPAN" . This all started years ago, and in fact at the > >region 3 meeting in Hong Kong (73 or 74) I was the HK voting member to the > >meeting. At that time, our Hong Kong Amateur Transmitting Society members > >had thoroughly discussed the ever increasing numbers of hams we were seeing > >in Japan and were discombobulated at the QRM we were being inundated with > >from there. We had discovered, in order to get a license in Japan, all a > >Japanese citizen had to do was throw a few Yen in an envelope and send it > >off to JARL - not the Japanese government agency equivalent . For that, > >they would get a code free HF license that would permit them operations on > >certain parts of the hf bands, contrary to ITU rules. They were limited to > >something like 25 watts at the time. I was asked to write up a position > >paper and read it to the conference, by our membership. > > > >W1RU was there, representing the ARRLs members in the US Islands in the > >region. When I spoke that we had a position paper to read, he as much as > >demanded that we not be able to present it, because it wasn't on the agenda. > >I knew well what was on the agenda, as being the host, I had written it. He > >went on to demand that there be a vote JUST FOR ME TO READ THE PAPER. We > >were not asking for a decision, a vote, or any other action to be made - > >Just to be able to present our thoughts on the subject of "Issuance of Code > >Free Amateur Licenses For Use On HF Bands" I had written the paper > >carefully, not mentioning Japan, or any other country by name, but simply > >stating our position against such actions since they were against > >international regulations. A vote was taken, with 4 countries voting for > >the reading of the paper, and two (JAPAN and USA) abstaining. I read the > >paper. > > > >After that, JA1RL stood up and said as far as the Japanese were concerned, > >they could issue such licenses because " These amateurs only use 25 watts of > >power - so we know they will not interfere with any operations ""outside > >Japan""" Say what???? You could have knocked the rest of us over (except > >W1RU) with a feather. There were probably hundreds of hams already, at that > >point, that had achieved and received QRP DXCC. > > > >During the next session of the conference, we were all advised by W1RU that > >JARL was giving us (Region 3) an amount of money (I forget how much - or how > >little) to fight "Interference on our bands" Yep - money talks. > > > >So , this is nothing new, for an organization supposedly there to fight for > >its membership, to do just the opposite of what the majority wants, or to > >tell us one thing and do exactly the opposite. The sad thing is its the only > >thing we have. I was, and still am a member. That gives me the right to > >bash them every time they do something like this. After all I AM THE ARRL. > >Yeah ! Right! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Danny Douglas N7DC > >ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA > >SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all > >DX 2-6 years each > >. > >QSL LOTW-buro- direct > >As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you > > use that - also pls upload to LOTW > > or hard card. > > > >moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk > > > > > > > > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Our other groups: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wnyar > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Omnibus97 > > > Yahoo! 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