I never counted the JA cards in Hong Kong, I simply weighed them by the
pound.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
    use that - also pls upload to LOTW
    or hard card.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KV9U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] US Hams Codeless Feb 23


> Well you were there, and I sure was not. I am disappointed to hear of
> Dick Baldwin's actions on this. You always want to believe people in
> such levels of power are scrupulously ethical. I realize that he did not
> absolutely have to follow what the ARRL may or may not have wanted, but
> you rather expect your delegate to represent the democratic process.
>
> For some reason I had thought the Japanese rigs were only allowed 10
> watts output, but of course even then they would be double what most of
> us consider normal QRP power levels. On the higher bands they could be
> effective in causing quite a bit of QRM although I never had any here in
> the midwestern part of the U.S. I am sure it was a lot different in
> other places.
>
> One other thing. The ARRL supported at least keeping the 5 wpm CW test
> for the Extra Class and I don't remember them ever dropping that
> recommendation to the FCC.
>
> 73,
>
> Rick, KV9U
>
>
> Danny Douglas wrote:
>
> >Yes Rick, I am positive that the ARRL did exactly that.  They published
the
> >results, and made written statements in QST that they would fight for a
> >continuation of the standing rules at the IARU/ITU level, then turned
right
> >around an voted with the rest of them against it.   They then said they
> >would support its continued testing with the FCC, and then turned around
and
> >did not do so, instead supporting the FCC's stated intention to delete
the
> >requirement.    I had at least two of them (ARRL OFFICIALS) tell me
> >face-to-face  they would support the majorities wishes.  Now they are
> >bragging about all the new "opportunities".    Its come down to a
business
> >decision, and they broke ranks, in order to sell more books, and
hopefully
> >gain more dues, etc.  I have read emails and missives from dozens of
people
> >who are quitting over this.  The ARRL management has never listened real
> >well to their membership, but this is the straw breaking the camels back,
> >for many.
> >
> >Go ahead and say 'JAPAN" .   This all started years ago, and in fact at
the
> >region 3 meeting in Hong Kong (73 or 74) I was the HK voting member to
the
> >meeting.  At that time, our Hong Kong Amateur Transmitting Society
members
> >had thoroughly discussed the ever increasing numbers of hams we were
seeing
> >in Japan and were discombobulated at the QRM we were being inundated with
> >from there.  We had discovered, in order to get a license in Japan, all a
> >Japanese citizen had to do was throw a few Yen in an envelope and send it
> >off to JARL - not the Japanese government agency equivalent .  For that,
> >they would get a code free HF license that would permit them operations
on
> >certain parts of the hf bands, contrary to ITU rules. They were limited
to
> >something like 25 watts at the time.  I was asked to write up a position
> >paper and read it to the conference, by our membership.
> >
> >W1RU was there, representing the ARRLs members in the US Islands in the
> >region.  When I spoke that we had a position paper to read, he as much as
> >demanded that we not be able to present it, because it wasn't on the
agenda.
> >I knew well what was on the agenda, as being the host, I had written it.
He
> >went on to demand that there be a vote JUST FOR ME TO READ THE PAPER.  We
> >were not asking for a decision, a vote, or any other action to be made -
> >Just to be able to present our thoughts on the subject of  "Issuance of
Code
> >Free Amateur Licenses For Use On HF Bands"   I had written the paper
> >carefully, not mentioning Japan, or any other country by name, but simply
> >stating our position against such actions since they were against
> >international regulations.  A vote was taken, with 4 countries voting for
> >the reading of the paper, and two (JAPAN and USA) abstaining.  I read the
> >paper.
> >
> >After that, JA1RL stood up and said as far as the Japanese were
concerned,
> >they could issue such licenses because " These amateurs only use 25 watts
of
> >power - so we know they will not interfere with any operations ""outside
> >Japan"""   Say what????   You could have knocked the rest of us over
(except
> >W1RU) with a feather.  There were probably hundreds of hams already, at
that
> >point, that had achieved and received QRP DXCC.
> >
> >During the next session of the conference, we were all advised by W1RU
that
> >JARL was giving us (Region 3) an amount of money (I forget how much - or
how
> >little) to fight "Interference on our bands"    Yep - money talks.
> >
> >So , this is nothing new, for an organization supposedly there to fight
for
> >its membership, to do just the opposite of what the majority wants, or to
> >tell us one thing and do exactly the opposite. The sad thing is its the
only
> >thing we have.  I was, and still am a member.  That gives me the right to
> >bash them every time they do something like this.  After all I AM THE
ARRL.
> >Yeah ! Right!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Danny Douglas N7DC
> >ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
> >SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
> >DX 2-6 years each
> >.
> >QSL LOTW-buro- direct
> >As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
> >    use that - also pls upload to LOTW
> >    or hard card.
> >
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