This is absolute nonsense.
A domain holder receives notification 60 days prior to
expiration, 30 days prior to expiration and in our case 15
days prior to expiration. Plus a final email is sent on the
day of activation.
If a domain holder ignores all these notices and allows the
domain name to expire, then it is willful neglect on their
part and they have no room to complain.
However, OpenSRS has stated on many occasions that the
domain holder has 40 days from deactivation to renew the
domain. Frankly I would like to see that shorten to 5 days
and then the domain make available for re-registration.
If a domain is being used, it will be renewed by the time
the holder receives three warnings. If it is not being
used, it should be returned to the general pool so somebody
else can use it.
This issue here is individual responsibility. The domain
holder has the responsibility to renew the domain within the
renewal period if they wish to maintain the domain. And at
the low prices charged today, they have no one to blame but
themselves if they can not raise enough money to renew the
domain for another year within 60 days of renewal.
How can you claim that you or the domain holder has been
victimized by cancellation after receiving so many advance
warnings that payment was due?
We hear the same cries when we suspend a hosting account for
non-payment. I forgot, it's not fair you turn my site off.
Never mind that we send them seven warnings, one per day,
that their payment was past due and the account would be
suspend on the seventh day if payment was not received.
It's not their fault they did not make the payment. They
are the victims, we are the bad guys for suspending their
account.
It's time to grow up accept responsibility for one's
actions.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Loren Stocker
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:43 PM
> To: William X.Walsh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SUDDEN DEATH!!!, aka "Helping Resellers
> with delinquent names"
> Importance: Low
>
>
> Yet, what's the real issue here?
>
> It's ICANN'S thoughtless policy that creates this
> situation. As I understand
> it, ICANN requires Tucows, NSI, Bulk and everyone
> else to pay for renewals
> IMMEDIATELY upon expiration. No grace period. No refunds.
>
> If that's the case we have a HUGE conflict of
> expectation between clients --
> accustomed to getting 45 days grace (or more)
> from NSI -- and the Registrar's
> who MUST delete the domain to avoid the renewal
> fees. The result is SUDDEN
> DEATH! No grace. No "on-hold" period. No recourse
> once the domain is lost. How
> am I doing so far?
>
> Rather that talk about cost recovery, we should
> be pressuring ICANN to provide
> -- at a minimum -- a 30 day grace period. Even if
> the domain goes "on-hold" at
> expiration, the client has at least a reasonable
> time to cure. Without this
> change in policy, we're all going to see -- or be
> victimized -- by Sudden
> Death; valuable domains lost due to material
> laspe of payment, say 2 days
> late. NO ONE WILL STAND FOR THAT! We are only now
> beginning to see the results
> of this non-sensical policy.
>
> Has ICANN forgot that were selling a data record
> with an incremental cost of
> say 1,000 per $1? Is a little customer services
> too much to ask for?
>
> Best, Loren
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "William X. Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thursday, April 26, 2001, 11:56:09 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> > That would be a great deal of help to all of us!
> > We do have a bunch of chargeback domains with
> no way to recover our
> > investment in those - between all of us, I am
> sure we could come up with
> > programing for a great auction site for these -
> hey we would gladly host
> > it free of charge on our servers if this ever
> catches on!
> > cheers
>
> So we do something that we've all been so
> critical of other registrars
> for doing?
>
> I don't think this is a very good idea at all.
> The bad press NSI got
> over this very issue should be a good indication
> of what would happen
> if the fastest growing registrar started doing it also.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William
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