Hold on a second...
The RSP gets 60/30 (etc) day notices. The end-user gets ONE notice - day 0.
That's why we give them a little time, in case their RSP hasn't been acting
responsably.
Charles Daminato
OpenSRS Product Manager
Tucows Inc. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of easygoing
> Sent: April 27, 2001 9:37 AM
> To: Loren Stocker; William X.Walsh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: SUDDEN DEATH!!!, aka "Helping Resellers with delinquent
> names"
>
>
> This is absolute nonsense.
>
> A domain holder receives notification 60 days prior to
> expiration, 30 days prior to expiration and in our case 15
> days prior to expiration. Plus a final email is sent on the
> day of activation.
>
> If a domain holder ignores all these notices and allows the
> domain name to expire, then it is willful neglect on their
> part and they have no room to complain.
>
> However, OpenSRS has stated on many occasions that the
> domain holder has 40 days from deactivation to renew the
> domain. Frankly I would like to see that shorten to 5 days
> and then the domain make available for re-registration.
>
> If a domain is being used, it will be renewed by the time
> the holder receives three warnings. If it is not being
> used, it should be returned to the general pool so somebody
> else can use it.
>
> This issue here is individual responsibility. The domain
> holder has the responsibility to renew the domain within the
> renewal period if they wish to maintain the domain. And at
> the low prices charged today, they have no one to blame but
> themselves if they can not raise enough money to renew the
> domain for another year within 60 days of renewal.
>
> How can you claim that you or the domain holder has been
> victimized by cancellation after receiving so many advance
> warnings that payment was due?
>
> We hear the same cries when we suspend a hosting account for
> non-payment. I forgot, it's not fair you turn my site off.
> Never mind that we send them seven warnings, one per day,
> that their payment was past due and the account would be
> suspend on the seventh day if payment was not received.
>
> It's not their fault they did not make the payment. They
> are the victims, we are the bad guys for suspending their
> account.
>
> It's time to grow up accept responsibility for one's
> actions.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> > Of Loren Stocker
> > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:43 PM
> > To: William X.Walsh; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: SUDDEN DEATH!!!, aka "Helping Resellers
> > with delinquent names"
> > Importance: Low
> >
> >
> > Yet, what's the real issue here?
> >
> > It's ICANN'S thoughtless policy that creates this
> > situation. As I understand
> > it, ICANN requires Tucows, NSI, Bulk and everyone
> > else to pay for renewals
> > IMMEDIATELY upon expiration. No grace period. No refunds.
> >
> > If that's the case we have a HUGE conflict of
> > expectation between clients --
> > accustomed to getting 45 days grace (or more)
> > from NSI -- and the Registrar's
> > who MUST delete the domain to avoid the renewal
> > fees. The result is SUDDEN
> > DEATH! No grace. No "on-hold" period. No recourse
> > once the domain is lost. How
> > am I doing so far?
> >
> > Rather that talk about cost recovery, we should
> > be pressuring ICANN to provide
> > -- at a minimum -- a 30 day grace period. Even if
> > the domain goes "on-hold" at
> > expiration, the client has at least a reasonable
> > time to cure. Without this
> > change in policy, we're all going to see -- or be
> > victimized -- by Sudden
> > Death; valuable domains lost due to material
> > laspe of payment, say 2 days
> > late. NO ONE WILL STAND FOR THAT! We are only now
> > beginning to see the results
> > of this non-sensical policy.
> >
> > Has ICANN forgot that were selling a data record
> > with an incremental cost of
> > say 1,000 per $1? Is a little customer services
> > too much to ask for?
> >
> > Best, Loren
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William X. Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thursday, April 26, 2001, 11:56:09 AM,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >
> > > That would be a great deal of help to all of us!
> > > We do have a bunch of chargeback domains with
> > no way to recover our
> > > investment in those - between all of us, I am
> > sure we could come up with
> > > programing for a great auction site for these -
> > hey we would gladly host
> > > it free of charge on our servers if this ever
> > catches on!
> > > cheers
> >
> > So we do something that we've all been so
> > critical of other registrars
> > for doing?
> >
> > I don't think this is a very good idea at all.
> > The bad press NSI got
> > over this very issue should be a good indication
> > of what would happen
> > if the fastest growing registrar started doing it also.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > William
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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