Yeah, I don't think there's any question there of fair use (and forgive me for if it seemed like I was implying such a thing), but I guess I just have an increasingly dim view of fair use in the mainstream media -- NYTimes obviously takes these things well (and has in the past) and is good natured about media criticism, so I wouldn't expect anything else.
The more I think about it the more I wonder if it is parody and not satire -- I don't want to get pedantic here, but I think its more about mocking the state of America rather than the NYTimes itself. Arguably the NYTimes declaring the war is over is the heart of the joke, but a substantial amount of the other work is closer to satire. It is conceivable that you could pull off this prank with any other newspaper brand, and maybe even with a purely fictional newspaper itself. F ~ ~ ~ thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog work / http://creativecommons.org sights / http://flickr.com/fcb sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis status / http://twitter.com/mecredis On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Dean Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Isn't this pretty clearly protected as a parody? The Gawker post mentions > is: > http://gawker.com/5084164/fake-new-york-times-declares-iraq-war-over-heres-who-did-itand > someone in the comments (somewhere between 50 and 60) says they took a > bunch into the Times building and most ppl really liked it and it was > declared (by Times staffers, no idea how high up) to be protected by fair > use. > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Indeed. Forgot to include the NYTimes' reaction here: >> >> http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/pranksters-spoof-the-times/ >> >> What's great is that no one has brought up copyright infringement once. >> Oops. >> >> >> F >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ >> thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog >> work / http://creativecommons.org >> sights / http://flickr.com/fcb >> sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis >> status / http://twitter.com/mecredis >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Rob Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Fred Benenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > I had some friends handing out papers and saw them in the hood. >>> > The nytimes thinks the 1.6 million number is wrong -- they don't even >>> have >>> > that kind of distribution in the city. >>> >>> Whatever the numbers it's an impressive achievement. (Whether you >>> agree with the politics of it or not.) I've seen spoof newspapers >>> before (I still have one from the May Day protests in London years >>> ago) but this really seems to have caught people's imagination and >>> international media attention. >>> >>> - Rob. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> Discuss@freeculture.org >>> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@freeculture.org >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@freeculture.org > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >
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