And let's be clear: This should be member-only content. We need more reasons why you HAVE to be a member.
D On May 14, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Matt Simmons <[email protected]> wrote: > > If LOPSA is trying to do anything, it is trying to create community so > > that good things happen all over the country. This would destroy that. > > I'm not going to wade into this right now, but for the record, one of the > most common comments I hear about LOPSA membership is, "I'd be interested in > joining, but there's no chapter near me". Clearly, my response is an emphatic > "LET ME HELP YOU START ONE!", but for a variety of reasons, it can't always > happen. > > The nationally livestreamed periodic event that you go on to mention would be > a big boon to those people in parts of the country and world where there > aren't yet chapters. > > We're working on a way to build and present this idea in a way that makes > sense. The label branding might not have been spot-on in the original email, > but the spirit of the idea is solid. > > --Matt > > > > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Tom Limoncelli <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Chris Palmer <[email protected]> > wrote: > so you may end up with a situation where project Y doesn't happen because > nobody wants to do it, and project X doesn't happen because when someone comes > along and really wants to do it, folks say "but project Y is far more > important...: > > You just described the concept of business discipline. > > There's a trade-off between being inventive/creative vs. distracted beyond > hope. There is a middle ground. > > I have not yet said if I am for or against a virtual chapter. I simply > asked, "What problem does this solve? How does that fit within our mission?" > Nobody has answered either question. (and it is amazing what chaos asking > such basic questions caused). > > Now I'm going to take off my "tom who tries to stay neutral" hat and put on > my "tom who is involved in a local chapter hat". > > This project does not fit within the priorities identified by the board. In > fact, it goes against them. One of the top priorities is to build local > chapters. A virtual chapter would sap potential members from local chapters. > There would be no reason to attend a meeting if LOPSA national was creating > content that was free and attracted big name speakers. The local chapters > are important because they build community and provides networking > opportunities that only work in-person. If LOPSA is trying to do anything, > it is trying to create community so that good things happen all over the > country. This would destroy that. > > I think there is a place for some kind of nationally livestreamed periodic > event. Can it be done without putting the local chapters at risk? > > The two biggest problems I see local chapters having is (a) finding content > and (b) finding new members. How are you helping fix those two problems? > > One way would be, rather than having it be a "virtual chapter", simply have > it be a monthly speakers series that is done via Google Hangouts Live. This > would raise awareness of LOPSA in general, which would increase the number of > people that local chapters could recruit from (helping problem B). At the > start of each on-line event there should be a brief and subtle mention that > local chapters exist, and show a URL that helps people find their local > chapter, or start a chapter themselves. Local chapters could have "viewing > parties" where people get together in-person to watch the talk (live or > recorded) and then discuss it in person. Local facilitators could use the > viewing party as an ice-breaker to encourage networking. (helping problem A) > Perhaps they would schedule a local speaker to go first before the viewing, > or the viewing event would be separate. > > The other benefit to doing it this way is that is is more likely to get off > the ground than virtual chapters. Sometimes projects at LOPSA never launch > because we get mired in forming the infrastructure. It will take a long time > to set up a chapter, go through all the motions, figure out how to define and > manage membership, etc. Don't risk losing momentum during all that. > Starting a speaker series is light weight; you need 1-2 people to start > recruiting speakers and 1-2 people to do PR. There's no membership structure > to set up, and people can join LOPSA using the normal channels that exist > already. > > That might not be what you were looking to do initially, but I think it would > have a higher chance of success and be more in alignment with the > organization's goals. > > Tom > > -- > Email: [email protected] Work: [email protected] > Skype: YesThatTom > Blog: http://EverythingSysadmin.com > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/
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