On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Josh Smift <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sure, but I'm just talking about tone here. "I think we're siding with
> Netflix rather than Verizon because of a cultural hatred of megacorps" is
> very different in tone from "oooh, the nasty wasty megacorps, you just
> can't even consider that they might not be the bad guys here, you
> narrow-minded idiot".

I think the tone used was exactly the tone I was striving for, and I'm not 
ashamed of it. That's exactly how I perceive the folks who have fallen victim 
to this cultural hatred for successful businesses. And that's all I'm going to 
say further on that point, as it's (as noted earlier) a meta side-point, and 
not the discussion...

> DB> Verizon *is* peering with L3 in a friendly way, they're simply saying
> DB> "man, one of your downstream customers is consuming a crapton of
> DB> bandwidth and we're throttling them so the rest of the traffic from
> DB> you isn't impacted.
> 
> Why is that Verizon's problem? If one of L3's customer's is saturating
> L3's network (or L3's uplinks to other networks", why isn't that something
> for L3 to deal with?

Because it's simple - and a time-honored network-management technique - to 
minimally impact some traffic so that the other traffic can get through. 
Verizon can make the determination "oh, that's a streaming video protocol that 
will adapt to a throttled connection handily" and throttle it back so that 
other less robust protocols make it through unscathed.

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