On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 17:03:33 -0400, Derek Balling wrote:
On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:57 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
They aren't slowing down Netflix to allow other traffic through,
they are letting an congestion point exist, which hurts all traffic
through that connection, not just Netflix traffic.
Do we have documented evidence of the other impacted traffic, or is
that just your assertion?
Yes (although you may not accept it), the L3 graphs that have been made
public show that all traffic from L3 to verizon is having problems,
because the problem is that the links are congested and packets are
being dropped by the L3 router because there is not sufficient bandwidth
to pass them to the verizon router.
Verizon is claiming that they are not traffic shaping anything.
There is no contradiction between these two points
Assuming for the moment you're right (and I don't know, it could be,
it's not how I'd play the game sitting in their chair), that's
motivating other L3 customers (who have negative impact) to put
pressure on their uplink to "solve the problem" (which would be
accomplished by paying VZN), or to switch to other carriers. (In
other
words, playing a variation on the PR game Netflix is playing on VZN,
against L3), which point it in the "goose and gander" category.
Yes, this is hurting other L3 customers, and so these big ISPs are
playing chicken, and everyone suffers.
I happen to believe that the world where Verizon wins and every server
is potentially supposed to pay every ISP for the traffic generated is a
worse world than the one where L3 wins and peering remains a relatively
small portion of everyone's budget and the ISPs continue to cooperate.
An even better world would be one where Verizon looses badly enough
that real competition forms.
David Lang
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