I think all of this PR battle (which now parts of the LOPSA membership is 
getting sucked into ;) is over Netflix trying not to have to pay VZ to reach 
their customers like they did Comcast --
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/business/media/comcast-and-netflix-reach-a-streaming-agreement.html

VZ has a right to run their network any way it sees fit. If they can make more 
profit from Netflix with a pay-to-play agreement, that's good for the owners of 
VZ, and is incumbent on management trying to maximize profit for the owners 
(which is every businesses' job #1.) However, somewhere, it crosses the line of 
"reasonable" profit and is construed to hurt consumers, and the Fed steps in to 
limit profiteering via regulation. Seeing as how the FCC already regulates VZ, 
VZ is making the calculated risk that Netflix will blink before the FCC will 
act... "It's just business."

Disclaimer: I'm a Comcast customer for home Internet services (we do have VZ 
FiOS run to our home, but no compelling reason to switch) and I'm not a Netflix 
customer.

W.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Derek Balling
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:04 PM
To: David Lang
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP 
monopolies


On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:57 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote:
> They aren't slowing down Netflix to allow other traffic through, they are 
> letting an congestion point exist, which hurts all traffic through that 
> connection, not just Netflix traffic.

Do we have documented evidence of the other impacted traffic, or is that just 
your assertion?

Assuming for the moment you're right (and I don't know, it could be, it's not 
how I'd play the game sitting in their chair), that's motivating other L3 
customers (who have negative impact) to put pressure on their uplink to "solve 
the problem" (which would be accomplished by paying VZN), or to switch to other 
carriers. (In other words, playing a variation on the PR game Netflix is 
playing on VZN, against L3), which point it in the "goose and gander" category.

D


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