On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 16:50:33 -0400, Derek Balling wrote:
On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Adam Compton <[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/22/14, 1:38 PM, Derek Balling wrote:
On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Adam Compton <[email protected]> wrote:

On 7/22/14, 1:29 PM, Derek Balling wrote:
On Jul 22, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Adam Compton <[email protected]> wrote:
If this is indeed what Verizon is doing, then there's really no opportunity for them to complain when Netflix points the finger at Verizon as the reason for poor streaming performance.
So it's a blame the victim mindset? "We're flooding you, but it's your fault you can't handle it" ?
Again, assuming your premise, it seems more like "We're flooding you, but since you're making a business decision to not upgrade your peering capacity, we're going to try and change your cost/benefit calculations with bad PR".
Certainly. And (as noted earlier) that is easier for Netflix to do because we're culturally trained to hate the big evil megacorp telco. But it doesn't make Netflix's position any more "right", or that the government should step in and interfere, no matter how many people think otherwise.

Arguably, the "big evil megacorp telco" is making a business decision to provide their customers with worse service than they might otherwise get, in order to protect their other lines of business, and relying on their de-facto monopoly in many markets to protect them from market forces punishing that decision. You have to admit, it's within the realm of possibility for people to be upset with Verizon here for reasons unrelated to blind prejudice.

Arguably, any customer who expects the "big evil megacorp telco" (or
frankly -- ANY company with any business sense) to make an
infrastructure investment whose main purpose is to directly help their
competition from the land-grabbing of their business is either naive
or stupid.

And here we see the problem

The Internet is not "the competition" for the ISP division, it's the service they are selling to their users.

It's only when you start looking at other businesses that the $bigmedia-corp is in that there is any competition.

Abusing a monopoly position in one area to affect your offerings in another area is exactly what is supposed to trigger anti-trust actions.

David Lang
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