I think there is another facet of communication that is being missed and
is probably part of the current issue. I think the OSGeo member of
LocationTech should also be responsible for keep the OSGeo membership
more informed about what is happening between the two organizations.
I think it is natural for our members to react defensively when
surprised by new information that seems to be detrimental to our
organization. Keep members more informed on a regular basis would help.
I for one do not have time to read through all the minutes of the board
meeting and various other committee meetings and would appreciate a
summary getting posted to Discuss.
-Steve
On 12/16/2015 2:34 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
The board is aware of public perception and I trust it will be on the
agenda for f2f meeting.
I think we can do a bit better than a statement - in our last board
meeting Micheal Smith has volunteered to be our OSGeo representative to
LocationTech. OSGeo is a member of LocationTech and we have been remiss
in keeping communication going in an official capacity (by supplying a
representative). We can issue a press release to that effect to have a
publicly visible sign of communication/collaboration.
Thank you for reassurance on the selection process Jeroen - all three
were very strong bids.
--
Jody Garnett
On 16 December 2015 at 05:29, Jeroen Ticheler
<jeroen.tiche...@geocat.net <mailto:jeroen.tiche...@geocat.net>> wrote:
Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It
is very much time to stop the negative sentiments around
LocationTech, FOSS4G conference offers that had LocationTech as a
partner and so forth. Constructive collaboration is all we need
within OSGeo AND with others in the (geo-)community.
I’ve heard negative sentiments about the FOSS4G 2017 selection
process. As a member of the Conference Committee I would like to
state here that I am convinced the LocationTech issue was not as
decisive for most members as people outside the committee seem to
think. It was an aspect discussed thoroughly, as were other aspects
of the proposals.
I hope the Face to Face meeting end of January by the OSGeo board
hosted in our GeoCat office will be constructive and positive from
all angles. But at this stage I also call upon the OSGeo Board to
come forward with a statement that helps to unify the OSGeo
community and give directions. There seems to be a vacuum in the
leadership right now with Jeff’s sudden resignation that should be
filled as soon as possible.
Greetings,
Jeroen
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On 16 dec. 2015, at 12:29, Ian Edwards <iedwards....@gmail.com
<mailto:iedwards....@gmail.com>> wrote:
/"there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going on"/
This negative "bashing" of other organisations has to completely
stop because it is having a massive negative impact on OSGeo.
We've recently lost a respected former board member (who has
resigned his charter member status) and the OSGeo president, both
in relation to how we've conducted ourselves in relation to other
organisations in the community. These internal losses are not due
to there being other organisations in the geospatial world, nor
how they are acting - but instead our losses are due to how we
ourselves are thinking and behaving.
OSGeo should positively support all elements of the geospatial
community including users, developers and also other organisations
to the fullest and best of our ability. By doing this we become
stronger (instead of weaker) and will remain useful, relevant and
of interest to the community who will continue to invest their
energy and efforts with us and recognise our unique value and
position.
In relation to LocationTech - similar divisions exist across the
entire Open Source world (take a look at LibreOffice and
OpenOffice, or MariaDB and MySQL). The broard "FOSS4G" community
(encompassing both OSGeo and LocationTech) is not alone in facing
this, and my hope is that OSGeo can once again be a beacon to the
rest of the open source world and show how best to embrace these
differences, understand the strengths and weakness in both camps,
and work together for the positive benefit of our diverse community.
--
Ian Edwards
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Puneet Kishor
<punk.k...@gmail.com <mailto:punk.k...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel <ptres...@myuw.net
<mailto:ptres...@myuw.net>> wrote:
>
> If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these days, you'd be
more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling licenses for Mac clones, suicides at Foxconn,
restrictions on getting apps on iTunes, removing fitness tracker products from their stores
because they might compete with the Apple Watch, etc. -- do a search for "apple anti
competitive practices")
You were doing fine until above. The rest of your post is
indeed very relevant and useful and argues correctly for
sanity instead of knee-jerk accusations (until the above
assertions, of course).
The point is, there seems to be a fairly strident Location
Tech bashing going on, and it is getting to be tiring. Let's
stick to keeping OSGeo a fun, useful champion of free and open
geospatial without becoming anti-anything-free, partisan and
possibly irrelevant.
--
Puneet Kishor
Just Another Creative Commoner
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