I also find it good to ask project leads to pass on announcements of this nature to their user lists ( more reach the better ). On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:10 AM Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1,000,000 to what Paul has said > > I also passed the FOSS4G 2013 list (which included names for 2011 and > previous FOSSS4Gs) to the 2014 team in the spirit of fraternal support to > future FOSS4Gs, I believe that was the right thing to do even though we > neglected to have specific opt in/out option. No doubt they passed the > extended list to 2015 and they have in turn shared with 2016. This is good > not bad. > > We need to separate the animus towards LT from the apparent horror at the > use of a ‘commercial’ service like MailChimp. Those of us who earn our > living from Open Source Geo need to promote Open Source Geo and that means > outreach to people who may not be followers of our mailing lists, so we > need other channels. e-mail marketing is an established way of reaching > potential FOSS4G participants, it is not evil, it probably isn’t spam (even > if you haven’t opted in) as long as you provide an immediate opt out from > further mail (which MailChimp does really well). > > If LT are willing to allow us access to their large contact list, surely > that is something we should say thank you for not complain about? We might > want to ask ourselves why their list is so much larger than ours? We have a > list of several thousand accumulated from previous FOSS4Gs, using MailChimp > enables us to clean that list down to interested participants very > efficiently by providing a simple opt out. > > There is no reason why we should not continue to maintain a growing list > of people who have attended, sponsored or expressed interest in > OSGeo/FOSS4G. The norm should be that you are opted in by default as a > result of past interest but every mail provides the option to opt out. > > Evangelising Open Source Geo is IMHO immensely worthwhile. To do that you > need to be a bit pushy while finding the right balance. > > Let’s applaud our advocates, conference organisers and marketeers, not > moan at them > > Apologies if this is a bit ranty (the first draft was way more ranty) > > Peace and goodwill to everyone for the holiday season whatever your faith > ______ > Steven > > > On 16 Dec 2015, at 20:00, board-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: > > *From: *Paul Ramsey <pram...@cleverelephant.ca> > *Subject: **Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o* > *Date: *16 December 2015 at 17:16:15 GMT > *To: *Daniel Morissette <dmorisse...@mapgears.com> > *Cc: *OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > > > > Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we > use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who > opens them so we can get better at marketing. Like any other business > trying to succeed. Mail chimp is currently convenient, in the past > other technologies were convenient (I spammed people in 2007 using a > custom perl script, because I am a God Among Men), in the future > different technologies will be convenient. But they are all going > towards making a good event. > > Naturally the first targets of marketing the event will be people who > have attended past events under the same/similar umbrella. I provided > the 2007 attendance list to foss4g events for a number of years until > it had grown entirely stale. I felt good about it. I revelled in the > goodness of it. > > I have spammed. I will spam again, in the service of a good cause. > That is my weakness. That is my strength. > > P. > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- -- Jody Garnett
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