Regarding Ron's earlier comment, we had a few members coming to us stating that our arbitrary student definition is a concern. We don't get our kicks out of sparking discussions like this for the sake of it, believe me. We do however, want to make sure our bylaws are consistently enforced and understand why the members in question are concerned.
Personally, I'd like to error on the side of being too lenient. Members can always pay more if they want to. Here's my shot at it (inspired in part by the financial aid office's definition): Any full or part-time student at an accredited secondary or post-secondary institution that leads to a certificate, diploma, or degree. Part time studies should at least involve 3 hours a week of class time. On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Ace Tunes <[email protected]> wrote: > If you add the age limit you exclude a number of students, who will likely > have even more expenses than the younger students. I think that is a bad > idea. I also think that this should be more community oriented instead of > business oriented, I personally get discouraged when I have to jump through > a series of hoops to get discounts and things. Coming in as a new member, > knowing no one within the group I personally would have just said "screw > it", not interested in joining. And thank you for putting this on discuss. > > On 7 May 2014 16:50, "chris kluka" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I suggest we adopt this definition of student (replace "United States" >> with "Canada") >> >> http://definitions.uslegal.com/s/student/ >> >> >> Student is defined as “an individual under 23 years of age who has not >> completed 4 years of education beyond the high school level and who is >> regularly pursuing a full-time course of study or training at an institution >> which is-- >> >> (A) a school or college or university operated or directly supported by >> Canada, or by a Provincial or local government or political subdivision >> thereof; >> >> (B) a school or college or university which has been accredited by a >> Province or by a Province-recognized or nationally recognized accrediting >> agency or body; >> >> (C) a school or college or university not so accredited but whose credits >> are accepted, on transfer, by at least three institutions which are so >> accredited, for credit on the same basis as if transferred from an >> institution so accredited; or >> >> (D) an additional type of educational or training institution as defined >> by the Secretary of Labor. >> >> Such an individual is deemed not to have ceased to be a student during an >> interim between school years if the interim is not more than 4 months and if >> he shows to the satisfaction of the Secretary that he has a bona fide >> intention of continuing to pursue a full-time course of study or training >> during the semester or other enrolment period immediately after the interim >> or during periods of reasonable duration during which, in the judgement of >> the Secretary, he is prevented by factors beyond his control from pursuing >> his education. A student whose 23rd birthday occurs during a semester or >> other enrolment period is deemed a student until the end of the semester or >> other enrolment period.” >> >> >> I would add that: >> >> A minimum of 40% course load for university or college students, or 60% >> course load for high school students is also required to be classified as a >> student. >> >> >> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Zewwy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So part time yes.. But certificates no... So what it takes.. Two cert >>> courses count? Or part time students without a job? This is messed! >>> >>> >>> Sent from Samsung Mobile >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Courtney Lofchick >>> Date:05-07-2014 4:32 PM (GMT-06:00) >>> To: "Discuss, SkullSpace" >>> Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] student member policy update >>> >>> We will, just wanted to put it on discuss first so people who don't >>> attend meetings can have some input too. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Brittany Postnikoff >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is great material to have in a meeting, bring it up there please! >>>> >>>> --BP >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Courtney Lofchick >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The board is having trouble coming up with a proper definition, that's >>>>> why we're asking for help. >>>>> We have had a few members apply as students who are getting >>>>> certificates from corporations (Cisco, Microsoft) The board does not >>>>> consider those people to be students. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Ron Bowes <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems oddly difficult to define it properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there some reason we're attempting to, or does this fall into the >>>>>> "fixing what's not broken" category? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7 May 2014 13:53, "Courtney Lofchick" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We don't want to say full time student because some of our members >>>>>>> are part time students and we don't want to exclude future part time >>>>>>> students either. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Nathan Wild <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We agreed ages ago to accept members 16 or over. This change would >>>>>>>> exclude them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That being said, I think as long as it is worded in such a way as to >>>>>>>> define student as "full time student", in fine with it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the intention of adding the student rate was that full time >>>>>>>> students tend to not have incomes, but benefit greatly from membership >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nathan T. Wild >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 7, 2014 3:35 PM, "Courtney Lofchick" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The board has been discussing the idea of updating our student >>>>>>>>> policy so that it is more specific about who qualifies. Please let me >>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>> what you guys think. This shouldn't change the status of any current >>>>>>>>> students but if it does, please let me know. We don't want to lose any >>>>>>>>> members due to the changes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Student Member Policy: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In order to qualify for student membership you must be a student at >>>>>>>>> an accredited post secondary institution, including but not limited >>>>>>>>> to: the >>>>>>>>> University of Manitoba, the University of Winnipeg, and Red River >>>>>>>>> College. >>>>>>>>> Taking a certification course (for example Cisco, Microsoft) does not >>>>>>>>> qualify you for student membership. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you feel your specific situation warrants student membership >>>>>>>>> please bring it up with the board. 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